Intro. New. But old. Cal 266. Hello gang !

goyoneuff · Mar 13, 2020

Good evening y'all !

Long time lurker in the forum but not specifically in vintage. I have been in other forums more active and plan to maybe be more present in this one. 😀

Lately, I have reduced my collection a lot for various reasons, yet something was missing. I wanted a nice and not absurdly expensive dress watch like tie and jacket dress kinda of watch. My thinking was a Memovox but getting expensive and maybe not a dress one. Anyways, my mind and eyes were on Omega from the 50's... Without further ado, this is my "new" watch. Please comment anything you want. I purchased this one eBay without too much education of my part, and received it today.

Total paid was $680 USD.

I hope to be posting more photos and finding a nice dress strap, maybe croc or python grain ?

I also finalized a trade that is bringing a Hesalite Moon and I will be posting soon too. Maybe getting a 1171 for it.

Good evening.

Cheers y'all !

Brother G.

Vanallard · Mar 13, 2020

Unfortunately, the dial has been refinished, which affects its value but that doesn’t really matter if you’re happy with the watch.

goyoneuff · Mar 13, 2020

Thank you Vanallard for the info. Yeah, I asked the seller and he was honestly said he thought so... But also the raised or applied numerals one seem more rare these days. In all honesty, I have been a serious flipper, I think more than 500 or so watches in about 25 or so years..., ... Lol. But really like this one. I hope to keep it. There is one Cal. 266 that I would like to own, otherwise I like this one lots. Price wise, it seems it was in the ballpark.
Cheers.

G

Vanallard
Unfortunately, the dial has been refinished, which affects its value but that doesn’t really matter if you’re happy with the watch.

Canuck · Mar 13, 2020

Before anyone else says it, I’ll say the dial has been re-painted. It is possible to like your first watch with a re-painted dial, but once you see watches with decent original dials, your preferences will soon change. If you liked it at $680 US, there were probably many that passed it by. Put it down to buying on impulse. Don’t be in such a big hurry to spend your money. It appears @Vanallard beat me while I was posting.

X350 XJR · Mar 13, 2020

Noob tax paid.

Wear and enjoy, but check here before buying your next one.

goyoneuff · Mar 13, 2020

Thanks Canuk. Yeah, looks like. They did a good job anyways because the letters look good and kept the Swiss Made at the bottom. I did search Watchtecon for vintage 50's Omega but really did not see many. Are they posted in another separate place ? I won't be searching more (well, at least I think .... Lol), unless I see one I really want, I will try to sell this one. This one was serviced because it ticks great for such an old gal, timegrapher is +6.

Cheers y'all !

G

Dan S · Mar 13, 2020

G goyoneuff
Thanks Canuk. Yeah, looks like. They did a good job anyways because the letters look good and kept the Swiss Made at the bottom. I did search Watchtecon for vintage 50's Omega but really did not see many. Are they posted in another separate place ? I won't be searching more (well, at least I think .... Lol), unless I see one I really want, I will try to sell this one. This one was serviced because it ticks great for such an old gal, timegrapher is +6.

Cheers y'all !

G

Here's a tip. Look at the 54 and 56 minute marks in relation to the 11 o'clock triangular applied metal marker (which also indicates 55 minutes). The applied metal marker should be exactly centered between those adjacent minute markers, but clearly it is dramatically uneven. Even if you aren't really an expert on printing or fonts for a particular model, this sort of misalignment is something that anyone can easily train themselves to recognize.

For people who are accustomed to looking at watch dials, there are many other "tells" on this watch. But this type of minute track misalignment is a good thing to start looking at as you scrutinize vintage watches. Other details will come with practice.

goyoneuff · Mar 13, 2020

Thank you very VERY much again.

Ok, I have asked the eBay seller for a refund even though he says in his auction there was no refund. We will see.

Cheers y'all !

G

Dan S · Mar 13, 2020

It will depend on how the listing was written. In order to force a return, the listing would have to be inaccurate. Since the seller indicated that the dial was refinished before you purchased the watch, then I'm not sure there is a justification for a return. But you can certainly ask if the seller is willing to accept it. You can link the eBay listing if you want advice.

goyoneuff · Mar 13, 2020

Thank you Dan

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264645334557

The seller seems like a genuinely a good guy. Here is what he said when I asked him via an internal message if the dial had been refinished:

Hi There

I cannot say , it is in excellent condition for the year of the watch so it may of been refurbished at some time, the Geneve font is correct and it has Swiss Made below the 6..but I cannot guarantee it has not been refurbished as it is in such good condition.
cheers

This is what I sent tonight:

Hello XXXX:

I received it today. Left positive feedback for you. Thank you.

However, I have been wearing the watch today and it really is a refinished / repainted dial. Please see a full front attached pic so you can see at the 54 and 56 minute marks in relation to the 11 o'clock triangular applied metal marker (which also indicates 55 minutes), the applied metal marker should be exactly centered between those adjacent minute markers, but clearly it is dramatically uneven. Also with a full front pic you can see 14 and 16 markers and see how the cross line is toward the 14 and not even between them. I would like to request a refund but prefer to ask you first instead of going through eBay. I will cover shipping back to you and you can refund me minus the expenses on your shipping, that is on me too.

Thank you very much and I hope you understand.

Cheers.

Dan S · Mar 13, 2020

The seller is experienced and lists a lot of watches. I looked through about 6 of his recent listings, and he is clearly knowledgable about watches, and he is careful about his listings. When the dials are original, he says that they are original. In the listing for your watch, he said nothing about originality. That was probably deliberate. We see this a lot.

goyoneuff · Mar 13, 2020

Ok then... Thank you Dan. I will see what he says... If not going anywhere, I will go via eBay system.

It is amazing how forums and WIS support each other. !! Thank you very VERY much. I should have known such place like this existed... Never checked. :-(

But it is really good to know y'all !

Any one needs advice on subs (Rolex and Tudor) , please do let me know ! Lol.

Thank you !

Dan S · Mar 13, 2020

G goyoneuff
Ok then... Thank you Dan. I will see what he says... If not going anywhere, I will go via eBay system.

Just as an FYI, while you can certainly try, forcing a return through eBay may be difficult since the watch is probably authentic and the listing was not inaccurate. As @X350 XJR mentioned, it is extremely common to buy a watch like this when you are not experienced, which is why he called it a "noob tax". Since you buy and sell a lot, taking a small loss on this watch when you sell it will not be a disaster, and you learned something in the process.

There is a separate sub-forum for Rolex on this forum that might interest you.
https://omegaforums.net/forums/rolex-watches-forum/

Dan S · Mar 13, 2020

As long as we are discussing the listing. As you probably know, when the regulator is pushed all the way to one side as it is, this is probably a sign that the watch has probably not been "cleaned and oiled" as claimed in the listing.

goyoneuff · Mar 13, 2020

Thank you again Dan. I will see what happens. Not wanting to start a war with him but also I work hard for my money. You are right, at the end I can sell and be honest about it and be done. We will see. If nothing happens with him or eBay, I will be asking for listing and price advice, but via PM since I assume it is poor etiquette to ask or request advice in threads.

Thanks y'all !

goyoneuff · Mar 13, 2020

Ohhh.. Aha. Interesting. Wow. How you learn something new every single day !

THANK you Dan !

Cheers.

G

Dan S
As long as we are discussing the listing. As you probably know, when the regulator is pushed all the way to one side as it is, this is probably a sign that the watch has probably not been "cleaned and oiled" as claimed in the listing.

Dan S · Mar 13, 2020

G goyoneuff
Thank you again Dan. I will see what happens. Not wanting to start a war with him but also I work hard for my money. You are right, at the end I can sell and be honest about it and be done. We will see. If nothing happens with him or eBay, I will be asking for listing and price advice, but via PM since I assume it is poor etiquette to ask or request advice in threads.

Thanks y'all !

You're right, it is a delicate matter to discuss pricing for a potential sale, especially when you are a new member and not eligible to sell in the classified section here (which requires 200 posts). In any case, a watch like this would be more appropriate for eBay, where you find many buyers who are happy to have a watch that looks good to them, and won't mind the repainted dial.

goyoneuff · Mar 13, 2020

Understand. Fully. Yes sir. I will see. If it does not go well with eBay I will sell on WUS where I have a lot of feedback and many years of experience, or eBay if it goes down to that.

I do appreciate lots the great schooling sirs !!

Canuck · Mar 13, 2020

There was a recent thread which showed numerous Omega Geneve models, many with original dials. You might benefit if you were to compare the dials on the watches shown, with yours. One in particular appears to be in rose gold, and the dial (I suspect) looks like yours would have, when new. In particular, check out the fineness of the printing of the word Geneve on an original dial, with the word a Geneve on yours.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/the-old-genéve´s-lets-see-them.59067/

The printing of the Geneve on an original dial is far finer and more delicate than the heavy lettering of the word Geneve on yours. On the rose gold one with the dial like yours, take note that the minute chapter ring (minute marks) continue between the 5 and 7, and those minute marks are missing on yours. To add to my comments in my original post, yours is a re-painted dial but it is also poorly done in my opinion.

goyoneuff · Mar 17, 2020

Good morning y'all. !

Hope all of you and your family are safe.

A quick update: seller accepted the return. Shipped it back. I will see the final damage at the end.

Thanks again all of you !

Cheers.

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