The "Longines" looks bad to me.

And is that running seconds hand supposed to be that long?

 

And the Longines logo. And the white paint creeping up the sides of the applied indexes and numerals.

 

Got the white paint on the second one but also think applied bits are too close to the bezel. Both are horrible.

 

Like seriously did they *Make* the logo? is it blobbed on paint? solder? what IS that? it cant be a filled down real one they are already way to slim... stamped gold / silver arent they? like breitling wings? i always assumed dont actually know. But that is just blobly

 

Actually I didn't mean the metallic logo proper but the black ink Longines signature.

 

Should be pretty obvious but here's another one.

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Guys (and girls), please describe why you think they are redials. It is not so "obvious" to those wanting learn.

 

It is not always easy to articulate. Over time, one develops a certain familiarity with the design language of original dials. I started this thread to hopefully prevent people from purchasing redials and possibly internalize what forms they come in. To authenticate, one must study original dials. But this is only possible if one is told which dials are original and which are not, whilst learning. This thread was meant to do the latter but not necessarily the former.

I do apologize for any condescension though.

 

Showing a bunch of dials and declaring they are redials is not instructive. A direct comparison of an authentic dial with a redial with some description of the difference would be much more beneficial. An excellent example is @DIV thread. Sorry for the hard criticism but, to be frank, wanting to learn, this Longines thread has been more an exercise in frustration than illumination.

 

Actually I kinda like being pushed to figure out the issue. Builds BS radar.

 

Appreciate the criticism. Will edit a few of the older posts with an image of a correct dial for comparison and attempt to do the same in the future.

Edit: Unless @LarryS objects.

 

No feel free to illuminate.

I do appreciate the Longines education and advice. As it's become a bit of an obsession, perhaps I need to buy a bible.

 

Subdials say redial, otherwise gorgeous watch.

https://www.chrono24.com/longines/f...-30ch-in-18k-rosegold-von-1958--id5785050.htm

 

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I don't know, that last Longines would have fooled me. The logo and the military numbers look so genuine. Maybe the outer track has been touched up?

 

If you are referring to the 23M, take another look at signature. It leaves a lot to be desired.

I would say that the outer track is another hint but the subdials are just awful. Edit: I have added a comparison with what looks to be an original dial. I should state that the chrono sec hand looks unusually black and the sub-dial hands are inverted.

 

The one I was referring to had no subdials. The inner military markers are red and there is no ebay link.

Interesting, of the two images you show, the one on the left has a doctor's dial and the one on the right has a tachymeter.

 

I apologize for the lack of clarity on my part. The one you are referring to is original and for reference. The one above it is the redial.

 

This is a redial. Though the original dial below is later, it is still a useful example for comparison IMO.

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