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Beware: Problem Longines watches
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DirtyDozen12
··Thanks, mystery donor!I was going to buy this but it's not right somehow. You pay peanuts and you get monkeys
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LesXL
·First time on wrist as it was with my watchmaker for a month immediately after I bought it. I'm so happy that I took her out for a glass of wine 😀
Changed the strap too as I find the one I had firstly put on was not totally the right combo
Changed the strap too as I find the one I had firstly put on was not totally the right combo
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·First time on wrist as it was with my watchmaker for a month immediately after I bought it. I'm so happy that I took her out for a glass of wine 😀
Changed the strap too as I find the one I had firstly put on was not totally the right combo
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LesXL
·Love the font!
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Syrte
··MWR Tech Support DeptCan't be genuine, surely.
Hi Pierre,
May I ask what makes you say that and do you have more pictures of the listing?
You may be right and I don’t know much about these, but from that single picture I find it hard to say with certainty. It looks exactly like a recent reedition, more pictures would be needed together with info on the seller.
In general I find it best to be cautious and quite certain before casting doubt publicly on a watch.
People making off hand comments on forums can be very damaging for sellers,
Best regards
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Syrte
··MWR Tech Support DeptSo the listing says “Black and silver dial with Arabic numerals signed with "Longines" is in perfect condition ( was professionally restored )
Personally I don’t find a problem with someone selling a restored watch, so long as they disclose the restoration as they did here.
Also, I would respectfully object as several of us have discussed in the past, about the notion that “just too clean” means a watch is a redial.
There are many perfect and “just too clean” original watches from the 1940s in existence in private collections.
In this particular case and based on the crisp pictures on the listing itself, the signs of restoration I find significant are:
1/ the font on the “Longines” dial signature is off;
2/ the condition of the dial is inconsistent with the amount of damage (scratches and pitting) on the case and the movement.
There are more subdued signs which IMHO would not be conclusive in and of themself.
I find the redial job quite nice actually.
Personally I don’t find a problem with someone selling a restored watch, so long as they disclose the restoration as they did here.
Also, I would respectfully object as several of us have discussed in the past, about the notion that “just too clean” means a watch is a redial.
There are many perfect and “just too clean” original watches from the 1940s in existence in private collections.
In this particular case and based on the crisp pictures on the listing itself, the signs of restoration I find significant are:
1/ the font on the “Longines” dial signature is off;
2/ the condition of the dial is inconsistent with the amount of damage (scratches and pitting) on the case and the movement.
There are more subdued signs which IMHO would not be conclusive in and of themself.
I find the redial job quite nice actually.
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Pierre1333
·So the listing says “Black and silver dial with Arabic numerals signed with "Longines" is in perfect condition ( was professionally restored )
Personally I don’t find a problem with someone selling a restored watch, so long as they disclose the restoration as they did here.
Also, I would respectfully object as several of us have discussed in the past, about the notion that “just too clean” means a watch is a redial.
There are many perfect and “just too clean” original watches from the 1940s in existence in private collections.
In this particular case and based on the crisp pictures on the listing itself, the signs of restoration I find significant are:
1/ the font on the “Longines” dial signature is off;
2/ the condition of the dial is inconsistent with the damage (scratches and pitting)’on the case and the movement.
There are more subdued signs which IMHO would not be conclusive in and of themself.
I find the redial job quite nice actually.
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Syrte
··MWR Tech Support DeptThe estimate may be steep, others will know better who follow them closely. But indeed originals may be worth considerably more if they’re a good size like this one and depending again on their dial and condition.
Looking at the watch more closely, one question might be the condition of the case back as the pictures don’t show very clearly the depth of the scratches on the case back (visible when you zoom in).
Looking at the watch more closely, one question might be the condition of the case back as the pictures don’t show very clearly the depth of the scratches on the case back (visible when you zoom in).
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DirtyDozen12
··Thanks, mystery donor!@Pierre1333 The Ryrie-Birks cal. 9.47N looks okay. 7.5K EUR is definitely too much for the 13ZN. The dial has a number of issues and looks to be emulating one of Longines' Heritage models.
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Pierre1333
·@Pierre1333 The Ryrie-Birks cal. 9.47N looks okay. 7.5K EUR is definitely too much for the 13ZN. The dial has a number of issues and looks to be emulating one of Longines' Heritage models.
