Ranchero Redials 101

pitpro

So far so good. This is a huge topic though
bc there are many variations of dial and hands,
especially with white and dress styles.
Ok. You say the real are sans serif.
Well they don't have the huge exaggerated endings,
but they do have a small little parallel ink extension on the ends.
That should be noted.
The fakers seem to be in love with this watch so I am a little
reluctant to give exact tells to help them make there work better.
That wouldn't help any of us.
How do these 3 look?

DIV

Hey!...glad to see you joined in the discussion...thank you...the first 2 look legit, but the not the 3rd....although it's close the "Ranchero" script is quite off....
Yeah, I should and could've expanded my examples to show white dial versions too, but like I said, I've seen predominantly 2 common replica dials quite often and was wondering if maybe you knew the history on them?

Fun stuff...

pitpro

Well you get the prize!
That 3rd one is the best fake I've seen.
The others are lousy attempts that wouldn't fool
most people and no, I don't know the history of them.
Also notice the 3d reflection of the ink height on the numbers
and the hour markers in the second picture.

DIV

I'm certainly no Omega Ranchero expert, but I have learned a lot in the last few months and seeing that they are more and more for sale online, I thought I would pass on what I learned about common redial varieties that I have seen in listings sometimes advertised as "original"....I'm certainly hoping that other vintage veterans member such as Pitpro can add their expertise....

OK. Here we go:
Let's start with an original Ranchero 2996 dial:
Here's the script:

and here's the 12:

Notice that the numbers are Sans Serif .

Now here is a very common redial variety. I have a feeling they were popular redials from many years ago (perhaps decades ago?). I would love some veterans to shed light on this (PitPro?).

Note the Serifs on the numbers, the light orange patina on the arrows and trailing stem on the "o" which almost makes it looks like it's "Ranchera":

Also notice that the curves of the numbers, especially the 2 of the "12" are slightly shorter than those on the original:


And finally here is a very popular replacement dial that is currently available from Asian sources. It is a high quality replica dial with very accurate colored pseudo patina on the arrows. It can be seen in Rancheros available on various online listings. It can quickly be identified by the accentuated and stylized Serifs on the numbers including the 3 in "30 mm":

Notice the Ranchero script is very close to the original, but there is an extra direction change between the "h" and the "e" (perhaps as an intentional identifier of replication):

Also notice the 2 of the "12" is fully curved over on top, but with added Serif:

The newest variation of this dial features an "open" 6 and 9. This is replacement the dial I currently have (and enjoy) in my daily "beater" 2996:

Which I feel is vastly superior to the dial that I bought it with:


The Rancheros are great vintage timepieces with Railmaster-similar features and movements, but values are largely dependent on the originality of the dial. I hope this has been helpful.

DIV

an original Ranchero 2996

mappleluna

Funny to see the watch im wearing right now in a thread

drainaps

OP, I love your thread and your dedication to the cause. My only concern (I'm Asia-based) on reading these threads is that they're worth their weight in gold to the bad guys too....

I quit collecting vintage Rolex a few years back, sick and tired of ever-improving fake dials, fake cases fake everything. Even my go-to trader in Hong Kong burned his fingers on a couple of occasions with fakes of the Steve McQueen Explorer. They were that good.

I hope this doesn't fall in the wrong hands. Thanks again to you for a detailed and quality post.

bill5959

Here's one recently sold by European Watch Co. Was not quick enough to see it in person (out for service!) but even I can see a problem😀