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Of A 386 Casebacks And Forgeries

  1. papaebetu

    papaebetu Feb 27, 2014

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    Maybe not.. But the sometimes can be...
     
  2. stephane

    stephane Feb 27, 2014

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    This is the pictures they sent me:

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    Is it good?
     
  3. LouS

    LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Feb 27, 2014

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    Yes it is. Sometimes, people substitute later versions of the Primero, but this one is consistent with the age of the watch.
     
  4. stephane

    stephane Feb 27, 2014

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    Thank you LouS!
    Do you think it's complicate to re-center the dial to show the "T-Swiss T"?
     
  5. LouS

    LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Feb 27, 2014

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    I don't know. It's not a problem I've seen before. That by itself concerns me.
     
  6. stephane

    stephane Feb 27, 2014

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    I have the invoice from the service, from a trusted Zenith reseller in France. So, my only concern is that there was a problem when re-mounting the watch so they cannot center the dial, but it's strange...
     
  7. Soluz

    Soluz Oct 16, 2014

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    Hi guys, I am new here.
    I am Marco from Italy, sorry for reopen this old topic.

    I just found this Zenith El Primero and I'd like to know more about it:

    Unfortunately I didn't find many results about it. I noticed the writings "539Dxxx" on the caseback and reading this topic I noticed LouS first post and I understand it's an A380 Type A Early production series:

    3 examples
    - case numbers 538Dxxx - 539Dxxx
    - plain caseback
    - internal inscription as follows
    a) Zenith
    b) Swiss made;
    c) Acier inoxidable;
    d) no Spillman number
    The writing is centered

    Let me know if I am right please:)

    foto 1.JPG foto 2.JPG foto 3.JPG foto 4.JPG
     
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  8. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 16, 2014

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    I'd love to know the details regarding the bracelet on your watch (endlinks + reference numbers) I haven't seen that before but it looks kind of like the Daytona Oyster bracelets.
     
  9. Soluz

    Soluz Oct 16, 2014

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    If you can tell me where I find them I'll take pictures and post them here :)
     
  10. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 16, 2014

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    anything stamped on the inside of the clasp or its folds and anything stamped on the underside of the endlinks (the side of the endlinks that touches the caseback).
     
  11. Soluz

    Soluz Oct 16, 2014

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    Sorry but my English is not good and I miss many technical words, are these pictures good?
    If not, do you have a demonstrative picture showing what I have to photograph?


    foto 1-1.JPG foto 2-1.JPG
     
  12. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 16, 2014

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    Ahk thanks can't see anything stamped, maybe some of the other guys know what it is, I'd thought there'd be some numbers or something identifying it.
     
  13. Soluz

    Soluz Oct 16, 2014

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    Is this a serious problem?
    Sorry but I don't know many things on this watch..
     
  14. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 16, 2014

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    Oh no was just for my curiosity, I don't know anything about that bracelet which is why I was asking, one of the other guys probably does though.
     
  15. Soluz

    Soluz Oct 16, 2014

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    Ah ok thank you :)
    I hope so
     
  16. papaebetu

    papaebetu Oct 16, 2014

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    Chrono red hand miss the lume in the photo up the table,
    but look to have when you dress the watch in car.....
    Numbers look reprint up a over polished caseback
    Bracelet got a later Zenith part of clasp, the other parts are from a China Oyster model

    However your A386 look a nice head first series if the movement is a correct cal.3019
    Please send a photo of that.

    GIGI
     
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  17. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 16, 2014

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    Ah so the clasp is Zenith but bracelet is a generic, that's a shame I didn't mind the PCL look
     
  18. Soluz

    Soluz Oct 16, 2014

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    I just received the watch back from the factory, I sent it for service and for make it to be a bit polished.. Do you think the bracelet is not genuine? Here one more picture:

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  19. stephane

    stephane Oct 16, 2014

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    Gigi, the best! :)
     
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  20. bobj

    bobj Nov 20, 2017

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    To resurrect an old, but very interesting and well put together thread, I assume on basis on the discussion here this watch is (to use a word from the classic car world) a "recreation" on the basis that it has a serial of 956DXXX, a flat polished case back and a service dial?
     
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