Of A 386 Casebacks And Forgeries

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This is the pictures they sent me:

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Is it good?
 
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Yes it is. Sometimes, people substitute later versions of the Primero, but this one is consistent with the age of the watch.
 
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Yes it is. Sometimes, people substitute later versions of the Primero, but this one is consistent with the age of the watch.

Thank you LouS!
Do you think it's complicate to re-center the dial to show the "T-Swiss T"?
 
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I don't know. It's not a problem I've seen before. That by itself concerns me.
 
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I have the invoice from the service, from a trusted Zenith reseller in France. So, my only concern is that there was a problem when re-mounting the watch so they cannot center the dial, but it's strange...
 
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Hi guys, I am new here.
I am Marco from Italy, sorry for reopen this old topic.

I just found this Zenith El Primero and I'd like to know more about it:

Unfortunately I didn't find many results about it. I noticed the writings "539Dxxx" on the caseback and reading this topic I noticed LouS first post and I understand it's an A380 Type A Early production series:

3 examples
- case numbers 538Dxxx - 539Dxxx
- plain caseback
- internal inscription as follows
a) Zenith
b) Swiss made;
c) Acier inoxidable;
d) no Spillman number
The writing is centered

Let me know if I am right please😀

 
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I'd love to know the details regarding the bracelet on your watch (endlinks + reference numbers) I haven't seen that before but it looks kind of like the Daytona Oyster bracelets.
 
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I'd love to know the details regarding the bracelet on your watch (endlinks + reference numbers) I haven't seen that before but it looks kind of like the Daytona Oyster bracelets.

If you can tell me where I find them I'll take pictures and post them here 😀
 
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If you can tell me where I find them I'll take pictures and post them here 😀

anything stamped on the inside of the clasp or its folds and anything stamped on the underside of the endlinks (the side of the endlinks that touches the caseback).
 
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anything stamped on the inside of the clasp or its folds and anything stamped on the underside of the endlinks (the side of the endlinks that touches the caseback).

Sorry but my English is not good and I miss many technical words, are these pictures good?
If not, do you have a demonstrative picture showing what I have to photograph?


 
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Ahk thanks can't see anything stamped, maybe some of the other guys know what it is, I'd thought there'd be some numbers or something identifying it.
 
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Ahk thanks can't see anything stamped, maybe some of the other guys know what it is, I'd thought there'd be some numbers or something identifying it.

Is this a serious problem?
Sorry but I don't know many things on this watch..
 
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Is this a serious problem?
Sorry but I don't know many things on this watch..

Oh no was just for my curiosity, I don't know anything about that bracelet which is why I was asking, one of the other guys probably does though.
 
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Oh no was just for my curiosity, I don't know anything about that bracelet which is why I was asking, one of the other guys probably does though.

Ah ok thank you 😀
I hope so
 
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Chrono red hand miss the lume in the photo up the table,
but look to have when you dress the watch in car.....
Numbers look reprint up a over polished caseback
Bracelet got a later Zenith part of clasp, the other parts are from a China Oyster model

However your A386 look a nice head first series if the movement is a correct cal.3019
Please send a photo of that.

GIGI
 
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Chrono red hand miss the lume in the photo up the table,
but look to have when you dress the watch in car.....
Numbers look reprint up a over polished caseback
Bracelet got a later Zenith part of clasp, the other parts are from a China Oyster model

However your A386 look a nice head first series if the movement is a correct cal.3019
Please send a photo of that.

GIGI

Ah so the clasp is Zenith but bracelet is a generic, that's a shame I didn't mind the PCL look
 
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I just received the watch back from the factory, I sent it for service and for make it to be a bit polished.. Do you think the bracelet is not genuine? Here one more picture:

 
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Chrono red hand miss the lume in the photo up the table,
but look to have when you dress the watch in car.....
Numbers look reprint up a over polished caseback
Bracelet got a later Zenith part of clasp, the other parts are from a China Oyster model

However your A386 look a nice head first series if the movement is a correct cal.3019
Please send a photo of that.

GIGI

Gigi, the best! 😀
 
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To resurrect an old, but very interesting and well put together thread, I assume on basis on the discussion here this watch is (to use a word from the classic car world) a "recreation" on the basis that it has a serial of 956DXXX, a flat polished case back and a service dial?