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Let's discuss the future of neo-vintage Speedmasters!
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killer67
·dinner plate sized belt buckle hits muddy pick up truck heading to a BBQ place to drink dr pepper before fixin' to go then lake in their Texas flag swim trunks to discuss the 2nd ammendment with their UT football buddies who are putting fixins on their burgers off the texas themed grill which is still cooking 10 degrees warmer than the temperature at noon
Rolex on your wrist? - “Yes, ma’am” and “Yes, sir” responding to their parents while tipping their hat
Rolex on your wrist? - “Yes, ma’am” and “Yes, sir” responding to their parents while tipping their hat
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cvalue13
·dinner plate sized belt buckle hits muddy pick up truck heading to a BBQ place to drink dr pepper before fixin' to go then lake in their Texas flag swim trunks to discuss the 2nd ammendment with their UT football buddies who are putting fixins on their burgers off the texas themed grill which is still cooking 10 degrees warmer than the temperature at noon
Rolex on your wrist? - “Yes, ma’am” and “Yes, sir” responding to their parents while tipping their hat
ah! I thought you might also be from around here!
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Radiozoop
·Well this thread got derailed good and quick... thanks for the chuckles, fellas!
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Dan S
·Well this thread got derailed good and quick... thanks for the chuckles, fellas!
Well, to be fair, threads like these really aren't taken very seriously, and many members are tired of speculating about future values. And then when you insulted Rolex owners, that reduced the chances of success even further. You might have better luck at watchuseek.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Well, to be fair, threads like these really aren't taken very seriously, and many members are tired of speculating about future value. And then when you insulted Rolex owners, that was the kiss of death. You might have better luck at watchuseek.
To me it’s a Dunning–Kruger problem. The OP doesn’t know enough to know what he already thinks is wrong, and that the video is clearly wrong.
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·ok if really necessary let’s get back on topic here - imo I don’t see speedies from the 2000s being a highly sought after piece due to the sheer volume and the lack of a developed personality that many of us seek in a timepiece
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Radiozoop
·To me it’s a Dunning–Kruger problem. The OP doesn’t know enough to know what he already thinks is wrong, and that the video is clearly wrong.
I think it's quite ridiculous to insinuate that any speculation regarding the prices of the Speedmaster increasing is a "wrong" question to ask, given recent events. After all, on the Rolex side, run-of-the-mill Daytonas have seen a massive increase in price, even if they are not of the "Paul Newman" variety. Even more applicable would be the fact that nearly all Rolex SS sports models have seen a huge jump in value, even including a simple Oyster Perpetual.
And if you're referring to my sly comment about the typical Rolex owner, all I can say is that my belief is formulated with many interactions I've had with Rolex owners. That is to say that a typical Rolex OWNER is not the same as a Rolex COLLECTOR. They're two different beasts, really.
But sure, yada-da, Dunning-Kruger. (Btw, a DK situation typically applies to someone who is over-assessing their own abilities, and I didn't intend to do that. After all, why would I ask a question to begin with? The post would have been more of a statement if I was asserting my own knowledge).
Well, to be fair, threads like these really aren't taken very seriously, and many members are tired of speculating about future values. And then when you insulted Rolex owners, that reduced the chances of success even further. You might have better luck at watchuseek.
No, no, I think I belong on the Omega Forum, considering I only collect Omega watches. In case you missed it, I previously posted that I have a particular bond with Omega for personal reasons. If the skin around here is so thin that a simple joke ruffled some panties, I think the problem is oversensitivity (and perhaps a little bit of guilty conscience, too 😜 )
Anyways, I come in peace, I didn't intend to start a war with a harmless joke.
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killer67
·When a guy younger than some of my shoes with a vested interest in pumping the market auhooritatively says "going to double," and "gonna go through the roof," "ALL V. 72 chronos will go through the roof" as though he has information we don’t really loses me early in the video.
...and 16550 is not "a couple year" watch
...and 16550 is not "a couple year" watch
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Radiozoop
·Thank you for being a voice of reason, I appreciate that. All I was looking for were the differing opinions on this situation.
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·No, no, I think I belong on the Omega Forum, considering I only collect Omega watches. In case you missed it, I previously posted that I have a particular bond with Omega for personal reasons. If the skin around here is so thin that a simple joke ruffled some panties, I think the problem is oversensitivity (and perhaps a little bit of guilty conscience, too 😜 )
Anyways, I come in peace, I didn't intend to start a war with a harmless joke.
I was also making a joke with my WUS reference, and not about you, just about this topic. It's sort of a running gag that threads like these are "Watchuseek threads." Also, threads that ask "how does this watch look on my wrist?" and "should I buy this watch?" and "what color strap should I put on this watch?"
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Radiozoop
·When a guy younger than some of my shoes with a vested interest in pumping the market auhooritatively says "going to double," and "gonna go through the roof," "ALL V. 72 chronos will go through the roof" as though he has information we don’t really loses me early in the video.
...and 16550 is not "a couple year" watch
Fair enough. To be honest I'm not familiar with the guy in the video. It popped up on my feed and he click baited the shit out of me with his Speedmaster in the thumbnail (Omega fiend, I know). Honestly I have a little bit of knowledge with vintage Omegas, not much, but I have absolutely NO knowledge about Rolex prices (other than I can't afford them), so I can't comment on that.
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Radiozoop
·I was also making a joke with my WUS reference, and not about you, just about this topic. It's sort of a running gag that threads like these are "Watchuseek threads." Also, threads that ask "how does this watch look on my wrist?" and "should I buy this watch?" and "what color strap should I put on this watch?"
All good. I haven't ventured over to WUS, and by the sound of it, it looks like I should stay far away 😀
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Dan S
·Did he really say that? Talk about closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. The time to buy generic V72 chronos was four years ago. Now they have stabilized and dropped a bit.
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·I have a single Rolex (SkyDweller with polished links), a receding hairline (I’m looking at it now in my SkyDweller), 30 other watches that aren’t Rolex, and a Ford F-150.
Need instruction on my identity, please!
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Dan S
·You said it, not me. Guilty conscience perhaps? 😁
If the skin around here is so thin that a simple joke ruffled some panties, I think the problem is oversensitivity (and perhaps a little bit of guilty conscience, too 😜 )
That's twice that you made this weird comment to me about a guilty conscience. I honestly don't know what you're talking about, but both times it was in the context of Rolex owners, so it feels like you're trying to get in a dig, while then including a cute emoticon to say "no offense".
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killer67
·Fair enough. To be honest I'm not familiar with the guy in the video. It popped up on my feed and he click baited the shit out of me with his Speedmaster in the thumbnail (Omega fiend, I know). Honestly I have a little bit of knowledge with vintage Omegas, not much, but I have absolutely NO knowledge about Rolex prices (other than I can't afford them), so I can't comment on that.
I only say that because he showed up on the scene 1-2 years ago to ride the FOMO wave and collect YT revenue so I can't accept his opinions. There are authorities (most we’ll never hear from) that I would collect a future market assessment from.
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Radiozoop
·That's twice that you made this weird comment to me about a guilty conscience. I honestly don't know what you're talking about, but both times it was in the context of Rolex owners, so it feels like you're trying to get in a dig, while then including a cute emoticon to say "no offense".
I don't have time to get into my joke. You put some words into my mouth so I made a snide comment back suggesting you may have a guilty conscience for exhibiting some of the characteristics you thought I was implying. We all know the stereotypical guy that goes and buys a Rolex for all the "wrong" reasons, i.e., flaunting wealth for the sake of it.
Anyways, it was a joke, mea culpa.
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cvalue13
·Setting aside everything else, I do find interesting the notion of the Tritium vs Luminova crossover as it relates to collector desirability in the distant future.
Lume patina obviously plays a sizable roll in current vintage watch collecting today. But how might that morph in the next 20 years (when 2000 models are 40 years old)? Won’t it have to?
Or as some have seem to have suggested in this thread, with the number of watches available post-2000s, does that alone take general wind out of the hobby altogether - leaving folks scrapping over increasingly fewer pre-2000s?
Lume patina obviously plays a sizable roll in current vintage watch collecting today. But how might that morph in the next 20 years (when 2000 models are 40 years old)? Won’t it have to?
Or as some have seem to have suggested in this thread, with the number of watches available post-2000s, does that alone take general wind out of the hobby altogether - leaving folks scrapping over increasingly fewer pre-2000s?
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Radiozoop
·Setting aside everything else, I do find interesting the notion of the Tritium vs Luminova crossover as it relates to collector desirability in the distant future.
Lume patina obviously plays a sizable roll in current vintage watch collecting today. But how might that morph in the next 20 years (when 2000 models are 40 years old)? Won’t it have to?
Or as some have seem to have suggested in this thread, with the number of watches available post-2000s, does that alone take general wind out of the hobby altogether - leaving folks scrapping over increasingly fewer pre-2000s?
Thank you for your insight. Perhaps your suggestion about the distant future is more applicable to my original question, which I should have conveyed better: Do I have time to wait to buy a Lumi Speedmaster before prices get out of control? First off, I'm still in school, so getting another Speedy without selling my 321 is not in the books. In my case, it's one or the other. HOWEVER, I do have a great job lined up in a STEM field, but it's a year out. At that time I would be able to afford (and reasonably justify) both.
A simple question with a complex answer?
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