Help needed, thoughts , opinions. 1968 Railmaster 565 166.002

WOW Love the controversy

When I created this topic I was simply looking for information on a watch I bought. I got opinions that didn't hold up, I got people who said it was a legitimate watch and uncommon and then for whatever reason changed their mind completely. I got people who said the hands were wrong and I got people who said the hands looked right. I got people who said the dial was redone because it looked too good, but it has been proven that an old watch that was waterproof could actually still look good. How could the examples being posted on other topics showing the same vintage styles still have nice dials and this one has to be fake because it has a nice dial. Then I heard out how it had an over polished case kind of like a man who polished his prized car every time it received a scratch. What do you expect from a nearly 70 year old watch. I got people who sounded like I was mad because I didn't like the answers I received. I was told that the watch had the price drop several times but, if you look at the revisions in the auction, that is not so. I understand some people can't or won't spend a lot of money on something like a watch but the only revision made on this listing was in the description. You know what I didn't receive? I received no information at all. No facts. I received opinions from people that had no facts but still felt what they had to say was important to someone but themselves. I found information on the internet that said there Indeed was a 565 in a 166.002 case but no pictures had been posted as they are so rare, yet on this forum I was told it never existed. After I quit responding to this topic the school yard posts really took off. I realize there are people who look for topics that they can use to drive their post count up on but I am more interested in quality than quantity. I have tried to figure out how to unfollow this topic and I continue getting notifications of new posts. I have tried to figure out how to cancel my account here as I clearly don't fit in and, and I have failed to figure that out also. So rather than trouble you I would appreciate it if whoever has the power to make me disappear, please do so and I will not bother you fine people anymore.

From a typographical perspective the ‘Railmaster Official’ examples found here all follow the same typographic style which you can see on the right of the below picture, where the lower case ‘r’s X height meets the "ascender" of the letters ‘t’, ‘s’, and ‘l’.

If you look at the overlay I made of the OPs watch you'll see that the lowercase ‘r’ doesn't follow the rule set by the other thread's examples.

Beyond that the letters ‘i’, ‘t’ and ‘l’ all have a much greater "axis" or angle of attack in the OP's example.

Generally the inconsistencies of the letter forms in the OP's example (see the vertical form of letters ‘m’ and ’a’) coupled together with the other discrepancies all unfortunately point to the OP’s watch being a redial.

https://antiwatchman.com/wp/o-6012/
This can be translated to english. Obviously not the same watch, but identical to mine nonetheless. I thought the dial had a silver color to it, so does this one.

Don't cancel my account yet.

That may be the case, but the 'rhythm' of the glyphs on your watch and the one you just posted is so inconsistent that I simply don't believe Omega would have shipped something that feels so obviously 'off'.

Beyond that there are glyphs represented here that are shared across the entire Omega product line that we can use as a reference. The 'te' combination is a very good example, where the tail of the 't' meets the letter 'e' in a very distinctive way that has been kept consistent across the Speedmaster, Seamaster, Constellation, and Railmaster product range right through to the present day. Your watch, and the one you just posted, unfortunately seem to buck the trend...

Thanks for reposting these and saving me the trouble

The whole railmaster series of this vintage bucked the system. The railroads didn't want them nor would they approve them. They were a flop since day 1, they couldn't sell enough to make it profitable, they were sued to stop production, they changed the name on the dial, tried several different movements and dials, still they were priced down compared to same watch with not same dial, still had trouble moving them, and you are trying to compare them to an entirely different watch. I find it impossible to believe these 2 watches which are pretty much identical, would have had the dials refinished years apart and used the same silver paint? That's why I like it, it's much more rare than the ones everybody has already.

I know, I am no good at posting pics, but, Side by side, not the same case. Otherwise what is not the same?

I don't know what a serifs is, I agree the dial looks a bit small, I won't know anything solid till I get it and examine it. I don't think the cases are the same but I'm not sure enough to say. This is the only watch like mine that has shown up since I started the thread. I feel that is an accomplishment which I was trying to perform. I see one was sold a while back in a totally different looking case, I also can't understand why if someone were to go thru the trouble of replication of a dial twice, why would he not use lacquer white paint which is what was originally used on the predecessors.
I wish you could make a pic like I posted but make it look as good as these pics you posted. I would really like to see them side by side.

When I click on your Omega versus Omega all I get is a black page so I'm probably doing something wrong but thanks anyway

My head hurts.

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I think that we're looking at the serial numbers on the two movements the one that sold in Japan is probably a couple years newer

I'm not sure I'm having trouble reading this serial numbers I could be wrong

Just a note...
The product description states that it is redialed.
文字盤はメタリックシルバーのリダンダイアルです。

Oh boy, another choosing begger! 😝