Ceramic watches too expensive

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for us in centeral europe who earn 1500€/month means we are looking for all excuses why we would pay so much for a watch 😜
 
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no insults meant 😉

I'm sure there are language and cultural differences in play, but these qualify as insulting and demeaning in the English language:
seems your 35 years is either a lie or you were just a worker behind a machine.

RegF is just someone without proper education. - no offense meant.

based on your photobuchket pictures you are playing with toys or maybe making them and you are just a watch fan.
oh well.
thought we had some engineer to engineer talk, but you appear to be just a salesman.

In the future, please try to be more considerate.
 
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yes defently cultural, ethnical, age and some other differences. I didn't know that characterizing someone for what he is is offensive.
 
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yes defently cultural, ethnical, age and some other differences. I didn't know that characterizing someone for what he is is offensive.
Just curious, where are you from? I travel quite a bit and in most places your commentary would place you squarely on the "arrogant asshole" box. Except in France, there you would just be an "asshole", and in england a "proper asshole"

Please dont take offense as i am not saying you're an asshole or arrogant or even proper, just curious as to where you are from.
 
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Love how it's always the same 3-4 broken ceramic watches that keep getting posted as scare tactics. It's extremely rare. Even googling broken ceramic watch images you only get a small handful of pics. I'll take the lack of wear characteristics any day over the extremely rare chance of breaking my insured dsotm lol. I worry more about theft or a springbar comming loose on a watch and loosing it. I've had prob 30 watches from subs, to panerais, to Dayotnas over the years and the dsotm is my fav by a long shot.
 
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Love how it's always the same 3-4 broken ceramic watches that keep getting posted as scare tactics. It's extremely rare. Even googling broken ceramic watch images you only get a small handful of pics. I'll take the lack of wear characteristics any day over the extremely rare chance of breaking my insured dsotm lol. I worry more about theft or a springbar comming loose on a watch and loosing it. I've had prob 30 watches from subs, to panerais, to Dayotnas over the years and the dsotm is my fav by a long shot.
I agree with you there. There is not enough of a % of cracked ceramic watches to lable them all as a risk factor.

Steel and precious metal watches also get damaged in different forms and that doesnt make them all undersirable.

I did crack a saphire crystal on a tag heuer decades ago. Still have the watch and i never fixed it. Just lazy.
 
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I read somewhere that ceramic is fairly tougher, stronger, and more chip resistant then sapphire although sapphire is just a tad harder. Guess that's why we don't see watches made of sapphire. They can make sapphire several colors.

I agree with you there. There is not enough of a % of cracked ceramic watches to lable them all as a risk factor.

Steel and precious metal watches also get damaged in different forms and that doesnt make them all undersirable.

I did crack a saphire crystal on a tag heuer decades ago. Still have the watch and i never fixed it. Just lazy.
 
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Love how it's always the same 3-4 broken ceramic watches that keep getting posted as scare tactics. It's extremely rare. Even googling broken ceramic watch images you only get a small handful of pics. I'll take the lack of wear characteristics any day over the extremely rare chance of breaking my insured dsotm lol. I worry more about theft or a springbar comming loose on a watch and loosing it. I've had prob 30 watches from subs, to panerais, to Dayotnas over the years and the dsotm is my fav by a long shot.

And I love the lengths people go to to justify making watches out of such a brittle material. Yes from a purely engineering perspective it is interesting but I'll take the forgiving plasticity of metal any day over the risk (however small) of catastrophic damage inherent in using ceramic. If you dent or scratch your stainless watch, which granted is more likely than with a ceramic case, you pay a hundred bucks to have it put back to the factory finish. Worst case scenario if it gets run over by a bus you pay, what, a thousand for a new case. Any damage whatsoever on your ceramic wonder and the case is toast. Last time I checked, a new ceramic case was something approaching the cost of the watch. It is all so unnecessary, fixing a problem which doesn't really exist. It makes as much sense to me as making mobile phones out of glass front and rear. Great for the repairer or manufacturer, less great for the clumsy owner.

Oh and I have owned I think 3 watches now with sapphire crystals which have scratched so while that fallacious comparison between ceramic and sapphire has already been discussed, I would suggest damage to these is a lot more common than suggested earlier in the thread. I can live with this though since sapphire crystals are an order of magnitude cheaper than a ceramic case.
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Nothing to do with the risk of damage, I've just never seen a ceramic watch I didn't think looked shit. I'm not sure why, as I tend to sway towards black as a colour preference for a number of things, notably dials, but for some reason I can't get on with ceramic cases. It seems to make them look almost like toys (same reason I don't like the snoopy).
 
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Completely disagree here. It's not that brittle. Like I said I'm way more concerned about it getting stolen or lost. If in the rare case anything happens to it I have it insured.

And I love the lengths people go to to justify making watches out of such a brittle material. Yes from a purely engineering perspective it is interesting but I'll take the forgiving plasticity of metal any day over the risk (however small) of catastrophic damage inherent in using ceramic. If you dent or scratch your stainless watch, which granted is more likely than with a ceramic case, you pay a hundred bucks to have it put back to the factory finish. Worst case scenario if it gets run over by a bus you pay, what, a thousand for a new case. Any damage whatsoever on your ceramic wonder and the case is toast. Last time I checked, a new ceramic case was something approaching the cost of the watch. It is all so unnecessary, fixing a problem which doesn't really exist. It makes as much sense to me as making mobile phones out of glass front and rear. Great for the repairer or manufacturer, less great for the clumsy owner.

Oh and I have owned I think 3 watches now with sapphire crystals which have scratched so while that fallacious comparison between ceramic and sapphire has already been discussed, I would suggest damage to these is a lot more common than suggested earlier in the thread. I can live with this though since sapphire crystals are an order of magnitude cheaper than a ceramic case.
 
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Completely disagree here. It's not that brittle. Like I said I'm way more concerned about it getting stolen or lost. If in the rare case anything happens to it I have it insured.
I know you disagree, I was posting a retort to your earlier post hence me quoting it! 😀
 
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Guess that's why we don't see watches made of sapphire.

Well...

http://www.ablogtowatch.com/4n-sapphire-planet-watch/

http://www.ablogtowatch.com/hublot-big-bang-unico-sapphire-watch/

http://blog.luxurybazaar.com/richard-mille-rm056-watch-case-made-completely-of-sapphire/

http://www.hautetime.com/total-tran...-through-visibility-in-every-direction/76501/

Even Omega made a watch case (for the Hour Vision) that wasn't completely made of sapphire but had a large piece of it inside...again you don't want to drop it...





Cheers, Al
 
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Yea I'd draw the line at sapphire for a watch case. It chips far too easy compared to ceramic.
 
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Yea I'd draw the line at sapphire for a watch case. It chips far too easy compared to ceramic.

Thanks, you just made my day...
 
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yes defently cultural, ethnical, age and some other differences. I didn't know that characterizing someone for what he is is offensive.

There you go again!
 
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Material specs aside I do have to say that to me ceramic watches are a little too "neat" and aseptic. Id o appreciate the look and coolness, but then they just don't appeal to me on my wrist. I am slowly warming up to some of the ceramic bezels around but even then I tend to like better the good old aluminum ones. It is just a taste issue not a judgement.

Most of the time when I see an all ceramic watch my first impression is "wow, cool" and then I just look somewhere else...it's a little bit like the bat mobile...it's great, but do I want one?
 
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The omega ceramic watches have a bit more going on than just a blank being cut, machines, polished.

Having had the tech talk from their head of product development at the Speedy Tuesday event, the ceramic is pressed, heated, cooled, polished, heated again with a mix of gasses to get the colours... they were talking over 24 hours in case production alone.

As to the "why" of their pricing?

Because they can.
The process is called monoblocing.