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West Slope
·This is probably an unpopular opinion but Max could have just left him room on the inside.
That's too simple....and yet exactly what I thought.
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That's too simple....and yet exactly what I thought.
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vbrad26
·When does Max ever leave room for anyone though? lol.
And that is part of the point I was trying to make on my above post.
He wont leave space for anyone but then complains when people wont leave space for him.
And that is why when he gets side by side with other drivers, a lot of the time, there is contact.
He will cram his way in there when passing and conversely, shut the door when being passed.
And again, I don't dislike him.
Do I think hes a good driver? Sure. Is he good for the sport? Probably. Will he win the title eventually? I wouldn't be surprised.
But he just needs to hone his craft a bit.
Both were wrong in this instance, Ocon a little bit more probably, but after the fact Max crossed the line.
I don't see Hamilton or Vettel getting physical with someone after an incident.
Emotions run high but you got to keep your shit in check.
Would have loved to have seen what would have happened if instead of Ocon it was KMag haha.
And that is part of the point I was trying to make on my above post.
He wont leave space for anyone but then complains when people wont leave space for him.
And that is why when he gets side by side with other drivers, a lot of the time, there is contact.
He will cram his way in there when passing and conversely, shut the door when being passed.
And again, I don't dislike him.
Do I think hes a good driver? Sure. Is he good for the sport? Probably. Will he win the title eventually? I wouldn't be surprised.
But he just needs to hone his craft a bit.
Both were wrong in this instance, Ocon a little bit more probably, but after the fact Max crossed the line.
I don't see Hamilton or Vettel getting physical with someone after an incident.
Emotions run high but you got to keep your shit in check.
Would have loved to have seen what would have happened if instead of Ocon it was KMag haha.
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redpcar
·In racing, that is VERY unpopular. In a socialist society, I guess it would work.
Max was the leader of the race. Ocon was NOT EVEN IN THE RACE.
The argument of him trying to un-lap himself is a farce.
It was Ocon's blunder. Should have lifted to let the leader go by. What is gained with that stunt? If they hadn't touched, his crew would have said let Max through along with blue flags.
Max was the leader of the race. Ocon was NOT EVEN IN THE RACE.
The argument of him trying to un-lap himself is a farce.
It was Ocon's blunder. Should have lifted to let the leader go by. What is gained with that stunt? If they hadn't touched, his crew would have said let Max through along with blue flags.
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Vercingetorix
··Spam RiskWhen has Max ever admitted to being wrong?
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Vercingetorix
··Spam RiskIn racing, that is VERY unpopular. In a socialist society, I guess it would work.
Max was the leader of the race. Ocon was NOT EVEN IN THE RACE.
The argument of him trying to un-lap himself is a farce.
It was Ocon's blunder. Should have lifted to let the leader go by. What is gained with that stunt? If they hadn't touched, his crew would have said let Max through along with blue flags.
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SouthernScot
·Just a bit tounge in cheek, Ocon is a Mercedes young driver, Force India use Mercedes engines, Just saying!!!
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redpcar
·Yes, Max needs more wisdom. Something that Hamilton and more seasoned veteran's have. Both were idiot moves but Ocon should have conceded simply for the fact that was not contending for anything. He should have given respect to the leader knowing that he wasn't in contention.
I agree too, that no action should have been taken. Things happen. After the race, I'm sure there will be plenty of discussion on protocol.
That said, I could give a rats ass if Max wins or not.
I agree too, that no action should have been taken. Things happen. After the race, I'm sure there will be plenty of discussion on protocol.
That said, I could give a rats ass if Max wins or not.
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redpcar
·"It was the first major incident between a backmarker and the race leader since the 2001 Brazilian GP, which ironically involved Verstappen's father Jos (pictured below) wiping out race leader Juan Pablo Montoya."
I forgot about this.
I forgot about this.
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vbrad26
·Let's also not forget about father Verstappen's past "outbursts"
Just from good ol' Wiki:
In December 2008, with the couple effectively separated, Verstappen appeared in court in Tongeren, Belgium, charged with assaulting his wife.[33] He was found innocent of assault, but guilty of threatening Kumpen in text messages and of violating a previously issued restraining order. He was fined and sentenced to three months probational, suspended prison sentence.[34]
After a 1998 incident in a karting track, in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father were found guilty in court of assault but were each sentenced to five-year suspended sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[35]
On 29 November 2011, the media reported allegations that Verstappen had assaulted his ex-girlfriend; Verstappen claimed to only have had a discussion with her.[36] In January 2012, he was arrested on attempted murder charges following accusations that he drove a car into his ex-girlfriend in Roermond,[37] but released two weeks later, after the charge was withdrawn.[38] Verstappen and his ex-girlfriend, Kelly van der Waal, got back together and got married in 2014. They have one daughter, named Blue Jaye, born in September 2014.[39] They divorced on 20 June 2017.
Just from good ol' Wiki:
In December 2008, with the couple effectively separated, Verstappen appeared in court in Tongeren, Belgium, charged with assaulting his wife.[33] He was found innocent of assault, but guilty of threatening Kumpen in text messages and of violating a previously issued restraining order. He was fined and sentenced to three months probational, suspended prison sentence.[34]
After a 1998 incident in a karting track, in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father were found guilty in court of assault but were each sentenced to five-year suspended sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[35]
On 29 November 2011, the media reported allegations that Verstappen had assaulted his ex-girlfriend; Verstappen claimed to only have had a discussion with her.[36] In January 2012, he was arrested on attempted murder charges following accusations that he drove a car into his ex-girlfriend in Roermond,[37] but released two weeks later, after the charge was withdrawn.[38] Verstappen and his ex-girlfriend, Kelly van der Waal, got back together and got married in 2014. They have one daughter, named Blue Jaye, born in September 2014.[39] They divorced on 20 June 2017.
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texasmade
·So Jos is a hot head. At least we know where Max gets it. Max still hasn't learned risk vs reward unlike Vettel, Hamilton, and other more experienced drivers.
KMag would've ran Max off the road and hit Max back for pushing him in the weighing room. KMag DGAF!
KMag would've ran Max off the road and hit Max back for pushing him in the weighing room. KMag DGAF!
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ama98
·Verstappen is still young and still a hothead. This will teach him a lesson even it was not his fault. But he must learn from it otherwise he won't be a champion.
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simonsays
·I think Max drives to fine margins and that’s why he is a spectacular driver. Not to say he doesn’t make mistakes, but I have never seen him make a ludicrous move, where I have thought, hmmm what were you thinking there. For decisions made in 1/1000s of a second they are considered with a mostly good chance of success. You can’t go from 16th to 3rd in 15 laps without aggression and that kind of driving is what makes the sport exciting. It is also what will make him a World Champion as soon as he gets a car caperble of the job. Maybe next year fingers crossed!
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texasmade
·I think Max drives to fine margins and that’s why he is a spectacular driver. Not to say he doesn’t make mistakes, but I have never seen him make a ludicrous move, where I have thought, hmmm what were you thinking there. For decisions made in 1/1000s of a second they are considered with a mostly good chance of success. You can’t go from 16th to 3rd in 15 laps without aggression and that kind of driving is what makes the sport exciting. It is also what will make him a World Champion as soon as he gets a car caperble of the job. Maybe next year fingers crossed!
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...In racing, that is VERY unpopular. In a socialist society, I guess it would work.
Max was the leader of the race. Ocon was NOT EVEN IN THE RACE.
The argument of him trying to un-lap himself is a farce.
It was Ocon's blunder. Should have lifted to let the leader go by. What is gained with that stunt? If they hadn't touched, his crew would have said let Max through along with blue flags.
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redpcar
·Ok. He had just put on a set of gummies and was driving like he had nothing to lose but he was still 70+ seconds behind so mathematically out of the race.
Bad form for a back marker to take out the leader.
That said, Max had everything to lose so he should have not fought with him. Bullied his way through as a young gun would.
All in all, it made the race much more exciting.
Could be worse. Think about McLaren. Nothing but blue flags all day. Penalties on both drivers for plugging up the circuit.
Bad form for a back marker to take out the leader.
That said, Max had everything to lose so he should have not fought with him. Bullied his way through as a young gun would.
All in all, it made the race much more exciting.
Could be worse. Think about McLaren. Nothing but blue flags all day. Penalties on both drivers for plugging up the circuit.
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Dogmann
·Hi all,
Whilst it was a good race with plenty of action Max's behaviour after the race was unacceptable for an F1 driver knowing all those cameras are there and acting in that way is no good for the sport, the sponsors or the drivers.
It seems many are oblivious to the fact that Max and Ocon have a lot of history coming up through the other formulas and not in a good way either, apparently they really don't like each other to put it mildly. It doesn't excuse either's behaviour but goes some way to explaining it as it was obvious by the pushing that Ocon was winding Max up with his comments in the weighing area so instead of calming down Max got more annoyed.
If next year RB's move to Honda power pays off both Max and Gasly are going to be right up there challenging for wins and the title, not forgetting what Le Clerc could produce at Ferrari alongside Vettel and IMO I think Vettel could come of worse from this years showing of his driving under pressure and mistakes. Just one week to go to the last race of the season and then a long 4 months wait to hopefully a really competitive and exciting 2019 season.
Marc
Whilst it was a good race with plenty of action Max's behaviour after the race was unacceptable for an F1 driver knowing all those cameras are there and acting in that way is no good for the sport, the sponsors or the drivers.
It seems many are oblivious to the fact that Max and Ocon have a lot of history coming up through the other formulas and not in a good way either, apparently they really don't like each other to put it mildly. It doesn't excuse either's behaviour but goes some way to explaining it as it was obvious by the pushing that Ocon was winding Max up with his comments in the weighing area so instead of calming down Max got more annoyed.
If next year RB's move to Honda power pays off both Max and Gasly are going to be right up there challenging for wins and the title, not forgetting what Le Clerc could produce at Ferrari alongside Vettel and IMO I think Vettel could come of worse from this years showing of his driving under pressure and mistakes. Just one week to go to the last race of the season and then a long 4 months wait to hopefully a really competitive and exciting 2019 season.
Marc
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vbrad26
·So, I'm going to start watching Formula E this upcoming season.
Anyone else?
I have avoided it till now but with the new cars and some familiar names for this upcoming season, along with major manufactures that are in it currently (Audi, BMW, Nissan) and will be in the following season (Porsche, Mercedes 2020-2021), I think I'm going to follow it...
Anyone else?
I have avoided it till now but with the new cars and some familiar names for this upcoming season, along with major manufactures that are in it currently (Audi, BMW, Nissan) and will be in the following season (Porsche, Mercedes 2020-2021), I think I'm going to follow it...
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Millenary Watches
·Always watching! Some races have been interesting, but towards the end, the result has been obvious👎
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