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texasmade
·Did Ferrari give up or something? They were nearly half a second off the pace. Seems like after the Monza debacle they’ve mentally given up.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Did Ferrari give up or something? They were nearly half a second off the pace. Seems like after the Monza debacle they’ve mentally given up.
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Supah
·Incredible how Mercedes (and Hamilton) still have the determination and hunger to win after so many titles. Well done by Bottas btw
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Wivac
·LEC drove another blinder, P7 in front of the FI chaps so hopefully at a minimum there should be some good mid field entertainment today.
Wasn't it only the other year Bernie was moaning that he didn't see the point of Sauber "just running around at the back" and should give it up?
F**k Bernie.
Wasn't it only the other year Bernie was moaning that he didn't see the point of Sauber "just running around at the back" and should give it up?
F**k Bernie.
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texasmade
·It's amazing what having some money and a Ferrari partnership can do.
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Wivac
·Yawn. Given the lead HAM has they should have let them settle it on the track, not with team orders. Feel bad for BOT, engineered wins suck for everyone.
VES was entertaining tho.
VES was entertaining tho.
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jimmyd13
·Yawn. Given the lead HAM has they should have let them settle it on the track, not with team orders. Feel bad for BOT, engineered wins suck for everyone.
VES was entertaining tho.
Perhaps more telling was how silently and quickly Bottas accepted the order while a few races ago Kimi asked for the order to be repeated when he was told to give up his place for Vettel.
I genuinely believe that were the positions of the Mercedes drivers reversed, the same order would have been given to Hamilton. I'm not sure he would have accepted the order with the grace of Bottas, so all kudos to him.
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bonerp
·Didnt Bottas get fastest lap 2, about 2 from the end? So pole, fastest lap and told to come second. This isn't sport. Hamilton for the sake of losing a couple of points should have given it back. You could see that neither of themselves enjoyed the podium. Bottas should've kicked off with a bit more passion. Maybe like Kimi he accepts being second to Hamilton/Vettel.
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jimmyd13
·Didnt Bottas get fastest lap 2, about 2 from the end? So pole, fastest lap and told to come second. This isn't sport. Hamilton for the sake of losing a couple of points should have given it back. You could see that neither of themselves enjoyed the podium. Bottas should've kicked off with a bit more passion. Maybe like Kimi he accepts being second to Hamilton/Vettel.
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Vercingetorix
··Spam RiskI totally agree but just give this a thought from Mercedes point of view: Hamilton has a (is it) 50 point lead. There's 25 points for a win. One failed engine or gearbox or a tyre blowing out and the lead is cut to just one race. Was it 1987 that Mansel lost the championship for the sake of a tyre? The lead Bottas gave Hamilton gives a cushion for one mechanical failure. That's business sense. I agree it's not sporting but there a millions in prize money on the line. Toto made the call and it would be his head on the block if they lost by a couple of points at the end of the season because of two mechanical breakdowns.
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jimmyd13
·There is no money at all for the drivers championship
https://sillyseason.com/f1-formula-1-prize-money-118349/
I knew that Ferrari receive a large additional payment just for showing up but I never thought that there would be no direct reward for winning the driver's championship. The indirect split on merit payments seems to be some $25m between coming first and second (but the math is more complicated than that. So Mercedes are due to get some $20m plus more than Ferrari this year; but, Ferrari are likely to receive an additional $90m just for painting their cars red ... or speaking Italian .... Or coming to more races over the years ... or ...
(I do jest).
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vbrad26
·The NASCAR "roval" race was far more entertaining and I NEVER watch NASCAR hah.
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·I genuinely believe that were the positions of the Mercedes drivers reversed, the same order would have been given to Hamilton. I'm not sure he would have accepted the order with the grace of Bottas, so all kudos to him.
If it was Rosberg, I can definitely see Hamilton complaining or even trying to ignore an order. Hamilton's been pretty fair with Bottas though. Like in Hungary, a couple years ago, when Hamilton gave the lead back to Bottas on the last corner.
I think Hamilton realizes that Bottas can't truly challenge him consistently and that he is a better driver.
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Vercingetorix
··Spam RiskWe should all be thankful the days of actually having to give up your car are over.
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jimmyd13
·We should all be thankful the days of actually having to give up your car are over.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Yawn. Given the lead HAM has they should have let them settle it on the track, not with team orders. Feel bad for BOT, engineered wins suck for everyone.
VES was entertaining tho.
HAM knew it sucked and I believe he felt bad about it. You know this exact situation was discussed before the race and even before the season started. I’m not saying he would give it back...
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Wivac
·Yeah, saw that, thought he was trying to acknowledge the situation, BOT looked pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. The C4 chaps seemed to become obsessed debating about who would get the win bonus - stay classy guys.
@jimmyd13 The same commentators were also talking Driver monies, while no direct cash from F1 ( odd no?) to win the championship brings with it a huge revenue surge for the driver from sponsorship, additional jobs / roles not to mention the team bonuses.
Personally I've always thought it INCREDIBLY strange that there is no Championship winning Manufacturer / Driver presentation in front of fans ( when its settled at a race) of a cup etc. Always feels to me like a massive anticlimax, especially during the super close years - like HAMs first championship. A black tie do, with dinner and speeches in Monaco 3 months later is just weird and does little for the fans.
@jimmyd13 The same commentators were also talking Driver monies, while no direct cash from F1 ( odd no?) to win the championship brings with it a huge revenue surge for the driver from sponsorship, additional jobs / roles not to mention the team bonuses.
Personally I've always thought it INCREDIBLY strange that there is no Championship winning Manufacturer / Driver presentation in front of fans ( when its settled at a race) of a cup etc. Always feels to me like a massive anticlimax, especially during the super close years - like HAMs first championship. A black tie do, with dinner and speeches in Monaco 3 months later is just weird and does little for the fans.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Yeah, saw that, thought he was trying to acknowledge the situation, BOT looked pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. The C4 chaps seemed to become obsessed debating about who would get the win bonus - stay classy guys.
@jimmyd13 The same commentators were also talking Driver monies, while no direct cash from F1 ( odd no?) to win the championship brings with it a huge revenue surge for the driver from sponsorship, additional jobs / roles not to mention the team bonuses.
Personally I've always thought it INCREDIBLY strange that there is no Championship winning Manufacturer / Driver presentation in front of fans ( when its settled at a race) of a cup etc. Always feels to me like a massive anticlimax, especially during the super close years - like HAMs first championship. A black tie do, with dinner and speeches in Monaco 3 months later is just weird and does little for the fans.
The ceremony after season is closed but for while they have acknowledged and had fan fair for when a driver gets the WDC at the track when they mathematically win it.
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texasmade
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Bottas is getting another year at Mercedes which is already worth millions of dollars, GBP, or Euros more than he'll get winning a single race. Him being a team player means they'll want to keep him around more as long as Lewis delivers championships. It's not like Bottas is going to get a drive from Ferrari, RB, or any other big money team.
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Vercingetorix
··Spam RiskTrue but there are no spare or team cars any more. It's a testament to the design that the crews can rebuild cars damaged in practice ready for qualifying and the race.
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