2018 Formula 1 Season

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Has Max got through a race this season without some stupid incident with his over aggressive driving style?
 
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wait, wasn't it last year or the year before they put in a "verstappen rule" to get him to stop this exact kind of BS? But was it specified to only under braking? The whole part about commiting to one move to defend into a corner.
It’s been around for awhile. Your only allowed 1 move to defend. Max has been pushing that rule for awhile. The rule was not fully fleshed out in regards to braking zones, but 3 years ago due to Max it was asked to be clarified.
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Has Max got through a race this season without some stupid incident with his over aggressive driving style?

Seriously, he can be extremely frustrating to watch at times. Feel bad for Ricciardo.
 
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Daniel seemed faster than Max the whole race.
I don't know how team orders work for them but I think I would have instructed Max to let Daniel by.
I'm all for good racing (and between teammates) but with Max's record so far this season I see him as a liability, and would not want him around my other car necessarily.

I really wish Bottas could have brought it home instead of Lewis. But luck is a big part of racing.
And Vettel's ran out when he couldn't make that last move stick.
But at least he went for it.
 
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Daniel seemed faster than Max the whole race.
I don't know how team orders work for them but I think I would have instructed Max to let Daniel by.
I'm all for good racing (and between teammates) but with Max's record so far this season I see him as a liability, and would not want him around my other car necessarily.

I really wish Bottas could have brought it home instead of Lewis. But luck is a big part of racing.
And Vettel's ran out when he couldn't make that last move stick.
But at least he went for it.

Agree, he did seem faster and he has twice the points in the standings. IMO they should have told Max to let him by. My heart goes out to Bottas for sure, right at the end of the race like that...demoralizing.
 
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Well CH pretty much answered my question on Twitter I guess....

"Christian: "We allow our drivers to race wheel-to-wheel, which they have done to great effect during the last two years. Unfortunately, today has happened and there is no blame apportioned to either side.""

I don't know still. I think it was Lauda (I realize his observations are just an that) that said he believed it was 70% Max's fault, and I think I agree with that.
 
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Christian Horner is making both the drivers apologize to the Red Bull factory, which I think is a brilliant punishment. After that he should make them write their own warning letters.
 
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Oh remember hearing about this at the end of the race and forgot about it till now.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...-f1-gasly-magnussen-dangerous-azerbaijan.html

Gasly and KMag get together (sort of)

I really want to like KMag...but he makes it really difficult sometimes.
He claims his mirrors were useless, but I'm not sure I'm convinced.

Pretty sure Max and Kevin just go around singing (to the tune of old MacDonald):
And a block block here and a block block there, here a block, there a block, everywhere a block block.
 
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I think Niki said it best - the drivers should foot the bill. Bet this wouldn't happen a second time! Max took it too far this time. I like his aggression and gung ho attitude but only to the point it becomes dangerous....too many times he has caused some eyebrows to be raised before he plunges down the inside without regard for others.
 
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Here in England our Channel 4 tv station says that Perez is the most successful Mexican of all time - whatever the stats, no one who like me recalls Pedro's 1970 Spa victory for BRM (and all those great 917 drives) will hear this as well-informed comment. Fingers crossed that Perez will lose third to Vettel over the DRS issue!


There are lies, damn lies and statistics. If the commentator had said Sergio Perez was the most successful Mexican driver in terms of podium finishes he would have been right. What he said was that Sergio was the most successful of all time.
Sergio took 140 starts for his 8 top three finishes, whereas Pedro had 7 from 54 starts, just over double the hit rate. The points per start would take too long to work out because of the vastly different scoring system in modern F1.
Of course the win to start ratio doesn’t work for Sergio because he has never won a GP, whereas Pedro had 2 victories from his 54 starts one of which was a Spa which in those days was a real test of a driver.
It may not be fashionable these days to consider motor sport outside of F1 but back then all the big names competed in the major sports car races as well as F1 and just a few of Pedro’s victories were:

24hrs of Daytona (twice)
1000km Monza. (twice)
and 24 hrs Le Mans 1968 in the JW Automotive Ford GT40.

There is no doubt that Sergio is a good driver, but the most successful Mexican driver of all time? This is why there is so much discussion about the greatest driver of all time, it is fiendishly difficult to compare drivers from different eras.
My own all time hero is the great Jim Clark who I saw race many times in all sorts of machinery, and if it all held together there was always a fair chance he would win.
 
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There are lies, damn lies and statistics. If the commentator had said Sergio Perez was the most successful Mexican driver in terms of podium finishes he would have been right. What he said was that Sergio was the most successful of all time.
Sergio took 140 starts for his 8 top three finishes, whereas Pedro had 7 from 54 starts, just over double the hit rate. The points per start would take too long to work out because of the vastly different scoring system in modern F1.
Of course the win to start ratio doesn’t work for Sergio because he has never won a GP, whereas Pedro had 2 victories from his 54 starts one of which was a Spa which in those days was a real test of a driver.
It may not be fashionable these days to consider motor sport outside of F1 but back then all the big names competed in the major sports car races as well as F1 and just a few of Pedro’s victories were:

24hrs of Daytona (twice)
1000km Monza. (twice)
and 24 hrs Le Mans 1968 in the JW Automotive Ford GT40.

There is no doubt that Sergio is a good driver, but the most successful Mexican driver of all time? This is why there is so much discussion about the greatest driver of all time, it is fiendishly difficult to compare drivers from different eras.
My own all time hero is the great Jim Clark who I saw race many times in all sorts of machinery, and if it all held together there was always a fair chance he would win.
If you equate success with money then Sergio is by far the most successful Mexican driver of all time😉.
 
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@SouthernScot

When they said that I fully understood it was podiums in F1 by nation.

If you look outside F1 it gets wonkey. Mazda has more race wins then anything else so who cares about Ferrari. ,Schumacher's number of podiums is no longer impressive and is trivial.
 
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He claims his mirrors were useless, but I'm not sure I'm convinced.

Check the part of the video where we're inside Mag's car - I'm convinced....
 
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I don't think Ric was faster all race, the only part where he could catch up was corner 1, never has he challenged Max in corner 2 or 3, where also a lot of moves were made during the whole race, also Max was pulling away until Hamilton appeared in front of him after his pit stop, there he was clearly being held up. He had a 4,5s lead on Ric.

Nevertheless stupid move, though if you see Max' onboard, I don't think he steered quiet as aggressive as it looked on Ric's onboard.
 
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There are lies, damn lies and statistics. If the commentator had said Sergio Perez was the most successful Mexican driver in terms of podium finishes he would have been right. What he said was that Sergio was the most successful of all time.
Sergio took 140 starts for his 8 top three finishes, whereas Pedro had 7 from 54 starts, just over double the hit rate. The points per start would take too long to work out because of the vastly different scoring system in modern F1.

On the US broadcast they did say in terms of podiums. It was a quick caveat like "Sergio is now the most successful Mexican driver" and then he corrected himself by quickly and quietly saying "in terms of podiums".
 
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Wow what a race! Red Bull drama was fun to watch, nice to see Vettel go "all in" and not play safe. Massive bad luck for Bottas. Lewis extremely fortunate to get karma payback for his "lost" Melbourne win.

Some general comments on the season so far:
It is amazing how cars enter and drop out of the tire performance window during a race...seems to be a real knife edge balancing act for each specific compound set and track temperatures.

I have to say the way Bottas is performing (performance not actual results), it would be incredibly unfair for him to lose his seat next year at Merc. He seems to be the perfect no. 2 driver you could wish for...pushing Lewis hard this year but with no politics and focused on being a team player. Kimi also has gained speed vs Vettel but seems to be making too many silly mistakes. He might just need one race win to fully regain confidence.

Max seems to have lost some credibility in the pit lane with the over aggressive moves on track, and I think this could be a defining year for him in terms of learning when to back off. Daniel has demonstrated great race craft (Baku being the exception, of course), but still seems to lack qualifying pace, perhaps he is still struggling to switch on the the tyres for a Q3 lap?

Great to see the Renault team fighting with Red Null (pun intended) on pace this weekend. McLaren seem to have dropped back the midfield order. Williams were looking a compete disaster, so nice to see them winning their first points. Also happy to see Leclerc have a solid weekend and get over the initial F1 jitters.

Most teams usually have significant aero updates for Barcelona...so for the next GP I think we could see some changes in the pecking order, especially in the mid-field.
 
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As per above post....


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The Ferrari now has ' ears'
 
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...Or boggly ' eyes ' , depending on your perspective.
 
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I wish it was possible to determine in real world terms how much something like the Ferraris mirrors cost. I’m talking wind tunnel time, prototyping time, installation time, etc etc. Now every other team on the grid is also starting to build their own wind tunnel versions to test. Also one has to wonder if they offer no advantage at all, but are simply there to waste other teams time. Ferrari says visibility is improved.
 
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Was wondering the same. What problem did they have, others didn't, and that is the most efficient solution. I'm pretty sure Sauber are still using lollipop sticks