2006 Seamaster Pro not keeping time

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I'm not sure, but it might be cheaper to put a new eta 2892 movement into this watch than to get it overhauled by Omega.

What a gruesome idea (I'll leave myself out).
 
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It seems not everybody likes my idea...

Obviously, using a movement that needs a service itself would not make much sense. But I was surprised that for $340 you can get the base movement from Otto Frei (http://www.ofrei.com/page_183.html). The price of a new movement should set a limit on the service cost. Just like you don't fix a transmission if you can get a rebuilt one for less.
Maybe this is how Omega sets their service prices? If they budget in a new engine, they should come out ahead even in the worst case.
Sorry, slightly drifting off-topic.
 
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It seems not everybody likes my idea...

Obviously, using a movement that needs a service itself would not make much sense. But I was surprised that for $340 you can get the base movement from Otto Frei (http://www.ofrei.com/page_183.html). The price of a new movement should set a limit on the service cost. Just like you don't fix a transmission if you can get a rebuilt one for less.
Maybe this is how Omega sets their service prices? If they budget in a new engine, they should come out ahead even in the worst case.
Sorry, slightly drifting off-topic.

Funny timing by the way, because two weeks ago I received my first Seamaster 300m 2531.80. People here on the forum noticed the Omega rotor was in the service parts bag. And later on, it indeed turned out to be serviced by a non-Omega watch maker. So there's most likely more to the Omega 2892 compared to the standard ETA 2892-2 , otherwise they could have just re-used the Omega rotor. In the picture below you also see a bridge and some other parts I haven't seen before looking at another Omega serviced 2892 parts bag I have.

And you mainly pay for the labour and the standaard gears and parts that will be replaced in a full service. Even if you would put in a new 2892, you will still have to pay for the labour of that non-Omega watch maker. An Omega certified watch maker will never do this for you, as they can lose their "license".
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Obviously, using a movement that needs a service itself would not make much sense. But I was surprised that for $340 you can get the base movement from Otto Frei (http://www.ofrei.com/page_183.html).

Keep in mind that Otto Frei will sell movements in "bulk pack" plastic containers that are not sealed, like this:



They could have sat on a shelf for decades, so your idea that this is a new movement that can be dropped right in is far from reality. Movements stored like this should be serviced before use in my view.

In contrast, watch movements that are stored in a way that is meant to keep them "fresh" so they can be pulled right out and used, are sealed in foil packages, like this:



The package has a date code so you know how long it's been sitting, and as noted on the reverse it's packed with inert gas to prevent oxidation of the oils:



This specific example is a quartz movement, but the mechanical movements are packed the same way.

As for this:

The price of a new movement should set a limit on the service cost.

We'll just agree to disagree on that one.
 
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I’m having issues with mine too. And I had it recently serviced by a big name local reputable guy. Purchased pre owned originally 2006 watch. It tells great time when worn (Atomic Clock accuracy) since it’s service and polish. But the issue is when it sits winding down unworn after 2 days its at -38 or so before it stops. My guy is on vacay till the 10th but if anyone has any suggestions feel free to chime in.
 
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It tells great time when worn (Atomic Clock accuracy) since it’s service and polish. But the issue is when it sits winding down unworn after 2 days its at -38 or so before it stops.

No watch is going to keep perfect time until the second it stops, so if you haven’t wound it for two days the fact it’s drifting just before it stops is not in any way the sign of a problem.

Cheers, Al
 
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So that sounds normal for it to loose -40 seconds or so before it stops after 2 plus days of sitting ? I’m comparing it to my 5 digit R watches that appear to be a -1 off even right before they wind down before stopping for example.
 
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So that sounds normal for it to loose -40 seconds or so before it stops after 2 plus days of sitting ? I’m comparing it to my 5 digit R watches that appear to be a -1 off even right before they wind down before stopping for example.

Assuming this is a Cal. 1120 like the OP’s watch, the power reserve is only 44 hours (they can run longer but that is the official PR), so at “2 plus days of sitting” yes it’s normal for the timekeeping to vary quite a lot.
 
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Ok good to know from an omega WM such as yourself, I had no idea it could vary that much after 2 days of winding down. Thank you for that insight.
 
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This mornings update which appears strange ... after removing the SMP last night before going to bed around 1030 pm or so and had taken a look at it this am around 730 am the watch is running right on spec w the Atomic Clock just about (maybe -1+1 off) but point is it’s not running -4-5 or so off for example when it would sit around that duration of time after a full days wear. Strange that now it’s running right on spec.
 
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Mine now seems to be working ok too. All I did was fully wind it by hand and it seems to be keeping time. I’m still going to get it serviced and tidied up (once I can afford it having just bought a new speedmaster pro!)
 
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Good to hear, I’m tight on fun spending money now after a watch hiatus this past year. I fully wound it 40 plus times before wearing it early yesterday am & had it serviced in the past month or so. It was originally running a little wonky before I had it fully serviced & polished by my guy at Time Care Inc here in Fl.