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·Just landed a 145.016-68 🥰 holy moly!
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145.006 / 145.016 Seamaster Chronograph Research Thread
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·Hi everybody, I recently got my hands on this 145.006-66.
As a newcomer to the 145.006/16 topic (thanks, great thread!), I think this example looks pretty nice, with one catch (see later below...).
I would very much appreciate your input and thoughts. Did I miss anything? Here goes:
Dial, hour, minute and subdial hands are fine as far as I can tell. I am pretty confident about the chrono seconds as well, although it might be just so slightly short... hard to tell, because the pics I have for comparison mostly show the tachymeter scale, which seems to have a slightly different radius for the outer print. Dial is the "Black Pulsometer Radial" variant, which seems to be one of the rarer ones.
Crystal seems to be correct and has the Omega logo - not really visible in the pics.
The case has the usual wear and light scratches, but great edges and does not look refinished to me. Caseback is great as well, even retains the matte surface of the inner medallion.
Inner caseback is unremarkable and correct.
Which brings us to the movement, where the issue is - this is a 321 of the earliest variant, I think MWO calls this "A1". An obvious indicator beeing the chrono drive-wheel bridge that is missing the bevel. The other obvious hint is, of course, the serial. If this movement were in a Speedmaster, that serial would be well in early CK 2915 territory, around 1957-58. Which is obviously 10 years too early for the rest of the watch.
I guess I will order an extract to find out where this movement comes from.
Other than that, it seems to be missing a movement holder screw, which should be no big deal (is it?).
Any other things of note that I missed?
As a newcomer to the 145.006/16 topic (thanks, great thread!), I think this example looks pretty nice, with one catch (see later below...).
I would very much appreciate your input and thoughts. Did I miss anything? Here goes:
Dial, hour, minute and subdial hands are fine as far as I can tell. I am pretty confident about the chrono seconds as well, although it might be just so slightly short... hard to tell, because the pics I have for comparison mostly show the tachymeter scale, which seems to have a slightly different radius for the outer print. Dial is the "Black Pulsometer Radial" variant, which seems to be one of the rarer ones.
Crystal seems to be correct and has the Omega logo - not really visible in the pics.
The case has the usual wear and light scratches, but great edges and does not look refinished to me. Caseback is great as well, even retains the matte surface of the inner medallion.
Inner caseback is unremarkable and correct.
Which brings us to the movement, where the issue is - this is a 321 of the earliest variant, I think MWO calls this "A1". An obvious indicator beeing the chrono drive-wheel bridge that is missing the bevel. The other obvious hint is, of course, the serial. If this movement were in a Speedmaster, that serial would be well in early CK 2915 territory, around 1957-58. Which is obviously 10 years too early for the rest of the watch.
I guess I will order an extract to find out where this movement comes from.
Other than that, it seems to be missing a movement holder screw, which should be no big deal (is it?).
Any other things of note that I missed?
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jhross98
·Hi everybody, I recently got my hands on this 145.006-66.
As a newcomer to the 145.006/16 topic (thanks, great thread), I think this example looks pretty nice, with one catch (see later below...).
I would very much appreciate your input and thoughts. Did I miss anything? Here goes:
View attachment 883929
Dial, hour, minute and subdial hands are fine as far as I can tell. I am pretty confident about the chrono seconds as well, although it might be just so slightly short... hard to tell, because the pics I have for comparison mostly show the tachimeter scale, which seems to have a slightly different radius for the outer print. Dial is the "Black Pulsometer Radial" variant, which seems to be one of the rarer ones.
View attachment 883933
The case has the usual wear and light scratches, but great edges and does not look refinished to me. Caseback is great as well, even retains the matte surface of the inner medallion.
View attachment 883936
Inner caseback is unremarkable and correct.
View attachment 883931
Which brings us to the movement, where the issue is - this is a 321 of the earliest variant, I think MWO calls this "A1". An obvious indicator beeing the chrono drive-wheel bridge that is missing the bevel. The other obvious hint is, of course, the serial. If this movement where in a Speedmaster, that serial would be well in early CK 2915 territory, around 1957-58. Which is obviously 10 years too early for the rest of the watch.
View attachment 883928
View attachment 883937
I guess I will order an extract to find out where this movement comes from.
Other than that, it seems to be missing a movement holder screw, which should be no big deal (is it?).
Any other things of note that I missed?
it looks like a very nice catch. i have the same model and wear it all the time
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kov
·@timestamp nice watch ! But... Unfortunately as you already noticed, this movement doesn't belong to this reference. If you order an extract and provide photographs of your watch (now you have to), you will most probably simply lose your money as they will confirm you your watch doesn't match their records and no extract can be issued.
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kov
·Just realized we've been missing a description of the Black radial dial from a 145.016 (cal 861) :
- Black dial
- Printed logo
- Radial sub counters
- Long tritium indexes
- Integrated tachymètre scale on a white background
- White hour and minute hands with a tritium track
- Orange chrono hand (18.20mm)
- White sub counter hands
--> First reference post updated accordingly.
By the way, there is something totally new to come soon into this research thread 😎
- Black dial
- Printed logo
- Radial sub counters
- Long tritium indexes
- Integrated tachymètre scale on a white background
- White hour and minute hands with a tritium track
- Orange chrono hand (18.20mm)
- White sub counter hands
--> First reference post updated accordingly.
By the way, there is something totally new to come soon into this research thread 😎
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kov
·Just realized we've been missing a description of the grey soccer dial from a 145.016 (cal 861) :
- Grey dial
- Printed logo
- Radial sub counters with soccer colors
- Short tritium indexes
- Integrated minute track on a white background
- Orange hour and minute hands with a tritium track
- White chrono hand (18.20mm)
- White sub counter hands at 3 and 6
- Orange sub counter hand at 9
--> First reference post updated accordingly.
- Grey dial
- Printed logo
- Radial sub counters with soccer colors
- Short tritium indexes
- Integrated minute track on a white background
- Orange hour and minute hands with a tritium track
- White chrono hand (18.20mm)
- White sub counter hands at 3 and 6
- Orange sub counter hand at 9
--> First reference post updated accordingly.
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timestamp
·@timestamp nice watch ! But... Unfortunately as you already noticed, this movement doesn't belong to this reference. If you order an extract and provide photographs of your watch (now you have to), you will most probably simply lose your money as they will confirm you your watch doesn't match their records and no extract can be issued.
Are you sure? I was hoping that they would issue an extract that tells me the reference the movements was originally sold in - they don’t do that anymore?
Also, don’t they refund the money if they won’t issue the extract?
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Eve
·Are you sure? I was hoping that they would issue an extract that tells me the reference the movements was originally sold in - they don’t do that anymore?
Also, don’t they refund the money if they won’t issue the extract?
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timestamp
·Ok I just re-read their terms, thanks. Very unfortunate 🙁
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skipper
·I believe these are 38mm exc. crown, but does anybody know the lug (tip) to lug length? Thanks
Edit - 43mm I believe. Great post btw KOV, very informative, thanks.
Edit - 43mm I believe. Great post btw KOV, very informative, thanks.
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super70
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new arrival, at least virtually.
Will pick up tomorrow and post better fotos soon, for now thats what i can share ... sone of you might have seen it offered in the bay.
Think it is a still decent and unmolested 145.006-66 Reverse Panda, printed, 321 looks clean, and the 25x serial is in line what you would expect.
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kov
·Yes have seen it on eBay. Congrats for your incoming 👍
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adam78
··Adam @ ΩFSorry for coming to the party late--no excuse, I haven't been quite as active here in recent months.
I've had these (145.006 with black radial dial; 146.016 with reverse panda dial) for quite awhile. I believe both are unpolished examples.
Great thread! Two references finally getting the attention they deserve.
I've had these (145.006 with black radial dial; 146.016 with reverse panda dial) for quite awhile. I believe both are unpolished examples.
Great thread! Two references finally getting the attention they deserve.
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Eve
·Can somebody be kind and tell what is the Reference Number for the correct crown for a 145.016-68?
It seems i have a wrong one :/
Any help appreciated! Thank you!
It seems i have a wrong one :/
Any help appreciated! Thank you!
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·
Is there any chance to check out the dimensions of 069ST43044? Because maybe my one is a current replacement crown. 😵💫
My one looks like this (thicker):
It has Diameter~6.2mm and thickness ~3. 5mm.
And all the other ones look like that (slimmer) :
Hard to tell but i think also the radius is larger on the correct one. At least visually from a photo.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerIs there any chance to check out the dimensions of 069ST43044? Because maybe my one is a current replacement crown. 😵💫
Omega doesn't give dimensions fore things like this. When you are ordering factory parts from a brand, you typically order by part number, not by dimensions. I look up the case, and see what crown is called out for that case, and that is what Omega says goes with the case. No dimensions are needed for the purpose of ordering, so they don't provide them most of the time.
The only way to get dimensions is to have one in hand and measure it. I checked my stock but this is not a crown I have on hand.
Cheers, Al
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jimf42
·I just noticed this post. I have this watch. I really like it. Same reverse Panda, same blue second hand.
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