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145.006 / 145.016 Seamaster Chronograph Research Thread

  1. kov

    kov Jun 4, 2018

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    As some of you already know, I have been digging into Seamaster chronos lately and literally fell in love with them.

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    I have got some more than that - enough to start a research - found some photos here and there but no dedicated thread, thought let’s make a dedicated and epic one :)

    There are also some similar watches under 145.020 / 145.029 references (or even 145.019 for the soccer time), let’s leave those for another thread and focus on 006 / 016 for this research.

    I will use this first post to link all possible variations and dials we’ll find over time.

    So far I have identified 15 variations :

    Seamaster Chronograph ref. 145.006 (cal. 321, stainless steel case, observed references : 145.006-66)

    - Silver radial dial
    - Black radial dial (observed variations : Tachymètre / Pulsomètre 30)
    - Reverse panda radial dial (observed variations : Applied Ω logo / Painted Ω logo)
    - Exotic dial

    Seamaster Chronograph ref. 145.006 (cal. 321, solid yellow gold case, observed references : 145.006-66)

    - Yellow gold radial dial
    - Silver soleil radial dial with gold applied logo and indexes

    Seamaster Chronograph ref. 145.016 (cal. 861, stainless steel case, observed references : 145.016-68, 145.016-69)

    - Silver radial dial thin indexes
    - Silver radial dial fat indexes
    - Black radial dial
    - Reverse panda radial dial
    - Exotic dial
    - White soccer time dial
    - Gray soccer time dial

    Seamaster Chronograph ref. 145.016 (cal. 861, solid yellow gold case, observed references : 145.016-68)

    - Yellow gold radial dial
    - Silver soleil radial dial with gold applied logo and indexes

    The goal of this thread will be to reference all kind of watches from this family produced between 1966 and the early seventies and help the community in identifying nice and all correct examples prior buying.

    Also when I have enough information consolidated, I will book a meeting with Petros Protopapas and we’ll check our findings against the archives of Omega Museum. We might have some interesting findings to share at the end.

    I will edit this first post with consolidated details when I get some free time available.
    In the meantime any pictures or comments on this initiative are welcome :thumbsup:
     
    Edited Feb 14, 2019
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  2. Andy K

    Andy K Dreaming about winning an OFfie one day. Jun 4, 2018

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    Very interested to see what you learn. :thumbsup: Will you be adding reference photos? For example, what do you mean by exotic dial? Is that the dial on the top right of your photo?

    And I hate to derail this thread already :D but I hope the 145.029 reference also falls in scope, I'd love to learn a) did that reference originally ship with soccer timer dials (there has been some debate on that topic here in the past and I see those out in the wild from time to time) and b) what can the museum share about the codes on the casebacks on certain 029s (as discussed in this thread).
     
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  3. kingsrider

    kingsrider Thank you Sir! May I have another? Jun 4, 2018

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    I am still pissed at myself about a 145.016 reverse panda I missed last July. My b@!!$ were not big enough that day and I chickened out at the last minute instead of slam dunking the auction.
    Great thread and great watches you have there. One day!!
     
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  4. kov

    kov Jun 4, 2018

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    Thank you Andy :thumbsup: yes I will be adding photos and descriptions of all variations we’ll discover ;) should start very soon - time issue atm ::shy:: yes, top right is the Exotic dial Seamaster.

    Nope, sorry - 145.006 and 145.016 here but feel free to start your own research thread for those :p
     
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  5. shishy

    shishy Jun 4, 2018

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    What are the case dimensions of these? They're lovely.

    I really like the red tipped one, top right. The viceroy-esque design
     
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  6. kov

    kov Jun 4, 2018

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    Let’s start with the 145.016 with what I called a Silver radial dial with thin indexes :

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    - Silver dial
    - Applied logo
    - Radial sub counters
    - Long thin applied indexes with tritium dots at outside edges
    - Integrated tachymètre scale
    - Chrome hour and minute hands with a tritium track and a black track
    - Orange chrono hand (18.20mm)
    - Black sub counter hands

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  7. kov

    kov Jun 4, 2018

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    38mm w/o crown ;)
     
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  8. Fabulon

    Fabulon Jun 5, 2018

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    Nice Tread...very nice watches :) these watches represent geat value imho. 321 movement...very cofortable casesize und you can have theme for (relativ) small money in todays vintage market.

    Here is my 145.006 with a black radial dial in, what i believe, all original and unpolished condition.

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    Best, Fabian
     
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  9. kov

    kov Jun 5, 2018

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    @Fabulon Thank you for your contribution, Fabian. Fully agree with what you said and I linked your post in my first reference post. :thumbsup:

    Let’a add a description of the Black radial dial :

    - Black dial
    - Printed logo
    - Radial sub counters
    - Long tritium indexes
    - Integrated tachymètre scale on a white background
    - White hour and minute hands with a tritium track
    - Orange chrono hand (18.20mm)
    - White sub counter hands

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  10. Fabulon

    Fabulon Jun 5, 2018

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  11. kov

    kov Jun 5, 2018

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    Thank you Sir, yes it’s mine, I will share some more pictures and infos about it here as well as it is part of this research topic. :thumbsup:
     
  12. MaiLollo

    MaiLollo Jun 5, 2018

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    Very interesting thread & pictures. I'm not very fond of this case shape, but I'd have to see it in the flesh to form a definitive opinion.

    I find that the dial design goes very well with the absence of a bezel, they're certainly very attractive watches (the panda is my favorite!)
     
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  13. trash_gordon

    trash_gordon Jun 5, 2018

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    Thanks for that work. Interesting to follow that :)
     
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  14. pascs

    pascs Jun 5, 2018

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    The 145.006 also available with Pulsations dial

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  15. kov

    kov Jun 5, 2018

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    Thank you ! Never seen any similar dial till now. Interesting 30 pulsations graduation :)

    Are you sure it’s for a cal 321 and not 861? Can you make a pic of the back to check the fitting pins? Thanks in advance !
     
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  16. pascs

    pascs Jun 5, 2018

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    Yes it was originally for cal 321 as the dial feet are the thicker pins and the large base
     
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  17. igloe

    igloe Jun 5, 2018

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    As always, you are unbelievable
     
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  18. kov

    kov Jun 6, 2018

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    Let's move on with some pictures from @stefan 's 145.016 with what I called here a Silver radial dial with fat indexes :

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    - Silver dial
    - Applied logo
    - Radial sub counters
    - Fat applied indexes (any Tritium inside?)
    - Integrated tachymètre scale
    - Chrome hour and minute hands with a tritium? track and a black track
    - Thin chrome (2998-like?) chrono hand
    - Chrome sub counter hands

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    An absolute beauty IMO and the only example I have observed so far. ::love::

    --> First reference post updated accordingly.
     
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  19. kov

    kov Jun 6, 2018

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    Another 145.016 variation is what I am calling a Reverse Panda radial dial :

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    - Black dial with white sub-counters (R)
    - Printed logo
    - Radial sub counters
    - Long tritium indexes
    - Integrated tachymètre scale on a white background
    - White hour and minute hands with a tritium track
    - Orange chrono hand (18.20mm)
    - Black sub counter hands

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    It seems this dial was also fitted on the 145.006 references with cal. 321 but I haven't seen any, yet. Does anybody have one?

    --> First reference post updated accordingly.
     
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  20. ConElPueblo

    ConElPueblo Jun 6, 2018

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    Interesting. That's probably the first Omega I've seen where the hands have lume, but the dial hasn't.
    Thoughts, anyone?