Where's the Love for Speedmaster DayDate 3523.80.00 ?

Privateday7 · May 13, 2014

Archer
I think this is part of the Reason for the " lack of love" for these models. Not quite rational in my mind, but I guess it's a personal thing.

Can I ask if you have the same feelings about any watch with the Speedmaster name that does not include one of the manual wind movements? So Speedy reduced, or even the 9300 based Speedmasters, or is it just this series with the 7750 base movements?

Cheers, Al

I think they are victim of 'moonwatch' marketing success. Probably only DSOTM that has cache of manual wind Speedy Pro.

Event horizon · May 14, 2014

I understand why purists don't like it having the speedmaster name but after 12 years of ownership and knowing how it's performed. (It saw a lot of water in its first five years) I can rightly say these are good watches in their own right. On the other hand owning one also makes me want a moonwatch as well.
The other month I got offered a seamaster bond watch, tried it for a couple of days and couldn't get on with the bracelet and bezel. Now I know this is one of omegas nicer seamasters but it isn't for me. It doesn't make it a bad watch just not the minorities choice.

Archer · May 14, 2014

repoman
Now this thread is starting to move in the direction I expected. Thanks NIklasARvid for being honest about your opinions on this watch. I've not yet seen the watch in person, which will happen next, but I've noticed that on more than one example online, the hands, particularly the lower subdial hand, look tarnished, or corroded in some way. Here's a rather nasty example of what I'm talking about, anybody have insights on this? Bad photography maybe? Seems like its common, and I find it really distracting

The hands are corroded on this example certainly. I just finished servicing an SMP Chronograph last week where all the hands were like this, so I replaced them all at service. No moisture damage inside the watch, so not sure what causes this.

The good thing is - hands are not that expensive to replace at service. If the dial markers are corroded, then that would be more money to replace the dial for sure.

Cheers, Al

Archer · May 14, 2014

Privateday7
I think they are victim of 'moonwatch' marketing success. Probably only DSOTM that has cache of manual wind Speedy Pro.

Yes exactly. Omega has made a lot of hay on milking the "moon watch" thing, so I can't blame them for milking it a bit more with all these variants. Some people seem to dislike the milking in one way, but not the other...

For me although the 7750 is ubiquitous and "industrial" it is very accurate and reliable. I always enjoy having one on my bench, because I know the service will go smoothly, and I won't have to fight it to get decent amplitudes, deltas, etc.

Cheers, Al

dsio · May 14, 2014

Archer
Yes exactly. Omega has made a lot of hay on milking the "moon watch" thing, so I can't blame them for milking it a bit more with all these variants. Some people seem to dislike the milking in one way, but not the other...

For me although the 7750 is ubiquitous and "industrial" it is very accurate and reliable. I always enjoy having one on my bench, because I know the service will go smoothly, and I won't have to fight it to get decent amplitudes, deltas, etc.

Cheers, Al

Not sure if this has been asked before but does the Lemania 5100 give you that same enjoyment or how does it compare from a watchmaker's perspective? Just asking given the 5100 and 7750 tend to be compared a lot due to them both being considered robust / abuse proof auto chronos, yet the 5100 tends to get more glory among collectors.

Archer · May 14, 2014

dsio
Not sure if this has been asked before but does the Lemania 5100 give you that same enjoyment or how does it compare from a watchmaker's perspective? Just asking given the 5100 and 7750 tend to be compared a lot due to them both being considered robust / abuse proof auto chronos, yet the 5100 tends to get more glory among collectors.

I've never really understood the reverence for the 5100. There are people who freak over the very small amount of plastic in the 7750, or the brake in the 861/1861, yet the 5100 is chock full of plastic bits and seems to get a pass.

The 5100 is even more industrial than a 7750, and honestly it feels more like working on something made in the USSR rather than Switzerland.

Cheers, Al

Stu-Silver · May 19, 2014

Hi all, really pleased to see this discussion on here having just bought a 1995 Speedmaster automatic this weekend. mine is a 175.0043 1155 Cal. black dial with silver subs and in my opinion is a fantastic looking watch. I am relatively new to collecting Omega's and this is by far the most expensive purchase I have made to date. My collecting started when I was given my Grandads 60's Omega Seamaster a few years ago which I had to restore due to a blackened and tarnished dial. This fuelled my interest in watches and I now have a dozen Seiko 6138/6139 chronos and 4 Omegas including my Seamaster, a beautiful and wholly original 1959 steel Constellation, (my first post) a recently acquired Cosmic and my latest addition which is pictured. I went to a recent watch fair with the intention of maybe buying a watch having saved for a long while now. I went with an open mind not having decided on a particular model and chose this watch purely on style and what caught my eye. It's a watch that I liked immediately and I am very excited to own and wear. I usually like to research things closely once I have decided on a particular model and take my time, but sometimes you've got to go with your gut. I am a little bit disappointed in the lack of interest in this particular model and like most, I hope it holds it's value well in future years, but the lack of interest hasn't taken the shine away from it at all. Wether it's worthy of the 'Speedmaster' tag or not, I am extremely pleased with my choice and think its a beautiful Omega Automatic watch that looks amazing for 19 years of age.

repoman · May 19, 2014

Holy Sideways Pictures Batman! 😉

I think that watch is a beauty Stu. I've been on the prowl for my blue dial automatic and expect to have one on my wrist soon. I have a visceral reaction with each watch I see... If I don't love it on first look, I don't come back to it. If I love it, then I start looking into the details and decide if its something I'd like to own. Only after all that, do I consider collectability, value, etc. I'm new to this whole world, but I knew this the first day I took interest in watches, I will buy them and wear them for joy, not as an investment. I'm glad that watch brings you joy. My blue dial automatic will for me.

Stu-Silver · May 20, 2014

Glad you like it, it's a smart looking think and good luck finding your blue version. The hunt is half the fun of this game. Blue version is Really nice, I think these came in quite a few colours so there's plenty of choice and one to suit everyone. I Can't get the pictures straight, they're straight when I upload and they turn on their side! I even rotated one 90 degrees and tried to upload and it made no difference. happy hunting, make sure you show it off on here when you buy.

Hijak · May 23, 2014

Congrats on your new Speedmaster Stu, looks great. Wear it in good health!👍

Stu-Silver · May 24, 2014

Will do, thanks. In London today and passed an Omega boutique. Went in For a browse, man I wish I had a spare 20k. Darkside of moon, beautiful Soyuz with meteorite dial and all 3 bullheads were some of my highlights!

amblin · May 28, 2014

Event horizon
I've owned the black dial version for 12 years now and it's a keeper, the biggest improvement you can do to this model is change the bracelet for a strap. I've fallen in love all over again since I've done this.

Ah, mine is exactly the same, and about the same age as well. And after all the years of hard use in sand/salt water environment it's still beating very strong and accurate so yes it's a good reliable watch And after seeing your pic I'll switch to leather strap aswell 😉

btw, I hate the AR coating, it picked up millions of tiny scratches...

peter-g · May 29, 2014

My 3520.50

Archer · May 29, 2014

Just finishing up a 35205000, and this is why I just love the 7750 and its variants:

Omega allows a delta (variation between positions) at full wind of up to 12 seconds, measured over 5 positions for their chronometer grade watches. Here I have 2.9 seconds measured over 6 positions.

No special effort was required to get these numbers. Not all are this good, but rarely do I have to take any extraordinary measures to get a great result on a 7750 (like dynamic poising), so usually getting 1/2 of what Omega allows is just done with the normal tweaking of the balance spring and regulator that I do on every watch.

I always look forward to having a 7750 on my bench - I know it will have a high probability of being a very trouble free service.

Cheers, Al

dsio · May 29, 2014

What are your least favourites (that you see often) aside from piggybacks.

Archer · May 29, 2014

Hmmmm....I would have to give that some thought. I don't know that there is a specific movement that I would say I know is always going to be a pain.

Usually watches that give me problems are vintage, more than modern. And in that case, it's the condition that's important. I can hate a Cal. 565, or love it, depending on how worn out it is. Some keep stellar time with little effort, and others I have to spend hours on to get modest results. Not picking on that movement, but just an example of one that I service a lot of to say the least (55X and 56X), and get mixed feelings from.

321's and 861's can certainly be problematic, but again it's mostly related to condition.

Cheers, Al

J3FF · Dec 4, 2014

Looks like I'm also in the 12 years old or so Speedmaster Triple Date Automatic Club.

The only complaint I have is that the luminescence on the hands and on the hours isn't bright enough. I know that sounds silly, but I do need to tell time at night, too.

Can you tell by looking if this is the type to have the 7750 or 7751 mov't?

Thanks!

Hijak · Dec 4, 2014

It may not glow bright enough Jeff, but it's patina is fantastic!👍

Archer · Dec 4, 2014

J3FF
Looks like I'm also in the 12 years old or so Speedmaster Triple Date Automatic Club.

The only complaint I have is that the luminescence on the hands and on the hours isn't bright enough. I know that sounds silly, but I do need to tell time at night, too.

Can you tell by looking if this is the type to have the 7750 or 7751 mov't?

Thanks!

That has an Omega Cal. 1151, which is based on the ETA 7751.

Cheers, Al

chickenman26 · Dec 4, 2014

Al,
What's your experience wih the latest version of these watches...the COSC ones with Cal. 3606? I have a fairly new one gaining slightly more than 7 spd. Love the watch but would really like it brought down within specs.

Stu O

Where's the Love for Speedmaster DayDate 3523.80.00 ?

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Event horizon

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Stu-Silver

repoman

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Hijak

Stu-Silver

amblin

peter-g

Archer

dsio

Archer

J3FF

Hijak

Archer

chickenman26

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