What Mistakes Did You Make As A Novice Collector? What Did You Do Right?

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Wrong: since getting into watches in 2016 I have been searching for the best next thing daily - I will never get back those countless hours. I have lost some money. I have sold watches I shouldn’t have. The heartbreaking feeling when you drop a watch and it needs to go to the watchmaker.

Right: since 2016 I have learned so much about watches and they have made my life more interesting. I have also made some new friends in the progress. Life is not just about counting hours. It’s about the moment. And the moments have been glorious!

A moment like these…

 
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Great thread...
A bit of history...not really a "collector", more of time spent acquiring watches. I have always liked/worn a watch. And historically had both a "daily" and a "dress" watch. My daily's have typically been Casio's since Keanu Reeves in Point Break (G Shock - 1980's). Owned 2 of those. Then moved to a more Chronograph "style" the past 20 years.

Wrong...bought an Invicta dive watch on a cruise ship. $795 tag "on sale"...long story short, the same watch is on Amazon for between $80-$130. Angers me every day, since discovered my "great sale find" was in reality a moment of callous ignorance. I think I probably paid around $350 for it.

Right...found Omega Forums, just as I was about to buy an overpriced Seamaster Professional 2500D. Found this site, in part due to my "lack of watch buying knowledge" and the above mentioned Invicta mistake.

Have several "collections", Guitars, Amps, Cars, Knives, Briar Pipes, Hats, Lucchese Boots, etc. Most are "small" collections or have been paired down to what I consider my "most" cherished pieces. Same with my potential "new/used" Seamaster. Long admired Rolex, thought I wanted a Grand Seiko, then discovered Omega. Think I am home. Price, quality, value, resale...
 
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Wrong : Oh, sooo many of them.
Thousands of dollars wasted on cheap watches. Have 30 or so 100$ watches, which are pretty much sitting the basement.
Went through a phase where I thought Steam punk watches are the next best thing in fashion 😀 and spent significant amount of $$$$ for watches sourced directly from Japan 😀.
One night decided all my mechanical watches ( the above 100$ ones) need a watch winder and here I come Ebay to waste more dollars.

Right:
Decided to focus on two or three brands like Omega, Rolex and always try to buy retail from an AD.
Finding this site to put a break on impulsive Ebay vintage purchases.
 
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(my) Wrong: trying to save $$$ on service costs, quality work isnt cheap
 
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Wrong: Bought a handful of mediocre watches in the 800-1200 euro category and sold them at a 100-200 loss after I started to notice they were actually not as nice. Often overpolished, too much patina.

Right: Learned to be patient and wait for a good condition variant to come up, asked some opinions before bidding on a watch (my worst one - see below, cannot believe I thought this was nice)

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I think one thing I did right was to not buy a bunch of low cost watches when I first got bitten by the watch bug. I read about this pitfall early and thankfully didn’t end up with a large collection of cheap stuff I don’t wear. I did buy a couple of duds that I actually managed to sell recently. I do wish I had bought an SKX back when they were a little over $100.
 
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Wrong: Not being focused enough. Sending off watches for service too quickly just to realize I don't bond with them and having to sell them at a loss. Spending every free minute hunting for watches rather than participate in real life (I need to find a better balance).

Good: Joining OF and asking the experts here before buying my first vintage Omega. Never bought a redial (so I believe). Mostly focused on condition to start with. Made a lot of new friends here.
 
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Thanks for this thread idea !

Wrong : being naive with some professional sellers in the first place, and then 2nd biggest mistake - this one related to joining OF and enjoying transactions based on trust : getting in a buying mode thinking I would sell as easily as I was buying... but here I am, having sold 3 watches and bought more than 50 😗... and even gradually moving up the limit I gave myself on price 😀

Right : having started collecting with a nice connie and then having joined OF and discovered all those stories, knowledge around this hobby and getting more and more into it, and enjoying the great interactions in this forum - which I do not take for granted.
Also, I have a nice collection I am enjoying everyday. I'd like to 'move it up' to some more special watches but for that I would have to start selling some... even though I have now a good excuse not to sell with the soft market we are in 😀

My only regret : not living close to other members and not being able to have had F2F interactions or joined G2G yet.
 
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When repeated (really repeated) wrongs make a right.

Wanting for a very long time a one watch collection for a milestone birthday. Getting that watch, thinking it’s the one… never being content… thinking what a horrible mistake I made with that significant investment on my wrist ($300 was a lot for me until this with g-shock)… never being happy with the watch… always chasing what’s next… always finding fault with what I had and selling it for a loss (did break even once on a used watch that resold for the original price)… history repeating itself for 2 years (with a Garmin and an Apple Watch in there briefly [don’t judge!])… thinking this is never going to work… went to an AD and ended up happier than I can imagine sporting a 43.5 Planet Ocean and absolutely loving it… weight is not an issue… fits like a glove… they say it’s the journey and ‘they’ are right… you don’t know what you don’t know and now having all that out of my system can enjoy this masterpiece in harmony.

Thanks for listening and thanks for the thread.
 
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Great idea for a thread, haha.

Right: Generally (and through sheer luck), I've been very patient. I got into watches, specifically vintage, when I was 16/17, which meant that I was still a few years away from being able to afford any of the vintage watches, even the relatively less expensive ones, that I want to buy. As a result, I had about 4-5 years of learning about watches and waiting before I bought a vintage one (a 1970's Speedmaster that I bought on the forums). I think that really paid off, because I never got excited and rushed into buying the wrong watch. When I did buy one, it was a great example that was correct, unpolished, etc. This did teach me that patience is the most important attribute of a collector, though. I recently bought a 16710 Rolex and I waited for months before I found a great, great example. And now, I think I have one of the nicest ones out there.

Wrong: Being too dogmatic about what I liked and don't like. I use to make up my mind about what watches I liked and didn't like pretty quickly, even before buying them or trying them out. I think new collectors should get used buying and selling a lot as they learn about watches. The 16710 I mentioned is an example. I hated the idea of owning a Rolex for a long time, but then I realized I could buy one, wear it for a few months, and sell it if I didn't like it. I've had my watch for a few months now and want to move on, but owning it has made me realize that I'd love to own a vintage Rolex, so that's next on the list once I sell this one. I would have never thought of myself as a vintage Rolex person a few years ago, but I think being open-minded and trying something out has been good in that regard.
 
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Great thread. A lot of the posts are very relatable.

My biggest regret is not getting into it earlier. My father dealt with watches for almost 10 years (late 2000s - late 2010s), and at the time I had very little interest. Too focused on my career. If I had put in just a little effort, I could have built a nice collection for half (or less?) of today's prices, have a wide network of dealers, and generally be years ahead with knowledge compared to now.

As for doing right, this forum is definitely helping me in that. I'm enjoying reading up about watches; learning to be patient and give myself plenty of buffer time for a deal; try to sell those watches I don't bond anymore (or never did). Finally, I'm seriously considering of taking up watchmaking as a side hobby, in a very slow and gradual way. Still buying tools to complete a basic setup, and a few "junk" movements I can practice on.
 
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I note that many of us longer term members are not chiming in. Personally the years of collecting are a blur and I’m now in the “WTF am I doing with all these watches?” phase.
- I was constantly traveling, jet lagged, time challenged, the market was hot and I was too quick on the trigger. I got caught up in the frenzy.
- I used dealers/brokers a bit too much although I mostly used good ones. Still I’m sitting on dealer margin that I may not recoup.
- I definitely made a few errors in judgement on certain pieces.
- I learned that acquisition is more fun and far easier than letting go.
- Importing to the US is far easier and cheaper than exporting.
+ Joined OF (which remains a pleasant daily diversion and community)
+ My global job allowed me to meet some nice non US folks in this community and to access markets outside NA.
+ I focused on styles and brands
+ I found a good local reasonably priced watchmaker
+ I mostly succeeded in acquiring nice examples.
+ I had fun and still enjoy the collection. I still try to ensure every watch gets some wrist time. (thats harder since I’m retired with an active lifestyle)
+ I found a brand “Baltic” that scratches the vintage itch for far less cash.
+ I didn’t use the mortgage money or go into debt. (the wife is still pissed at me though)

Overall..be picky, take your time, do your homework, seek advice if you are not sure, contribute to the knowledge base here as best you can. Remember that with rare exceptions, watches are not an investment.
 
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My biggest wrong was not over paying for watches in great condition early on.

My biggest right was sticking to Condition Condition Condition…. Didn’t matter what watch or brand it was this that was bestowed early and I thank the long term members that always drummed it into new members.

Another big right was not flipping the cheaper good watches…They are not as cheap anymore. 😉

I bought a lot when Overtime was plentiful and used that money for this hobby. So the money was never missed. Basically have overtime $$s on Overtime 😀

Another wrong early (and I see a lot of new collectors guilty of this) was wasting $$s on micro brands that were taking money from buying good watches. Hell a swatch MoonSwatch is a nice chunk towards a nice Seamaster 551

Research Research Research is another right that paid off over the years…know enough to jump on that watch like a “Fat kid at a candy bar” when you see it or it pops up.
 
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Personally the years of collecting are a blur and I’m now in the “WTF am I doing with all these watches?” phase.
Haha
 
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Biggest early wrong was falling in love with a watch and in that neglecting the obvious re-dial. I should have used my eyes... I believe it was in 2006.

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On the bright side - as @STANDY - I have kept all my "cheap" watches because I liked them. Now they are not that cheap anymore... I have also kept almost all (95%) of my "expensive" watches because I like them. That feels good too.

The right I have done is buying what I like to wear and to look at and kept the mantra "condition, condition, condition" close to my heart. I have not had an investors perspective. As one close to me said regarding art - "Buy what you like to have on your wall to look at - and in the end if it happens to have been a good investment - perfect. If not you still have a painting you like..."

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Biggest early wrong was falling in love with a watch and in that neglecting the obvious re-dial. I should have used my eyes... I believe it was in 2006.

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On the bright side - as @STANDY - I have kept all my "cheap" watches because I liked them. Now they are not that cheap anymore... I have also kept almost all (95%) of my "expensive" watches because I like them. That feels good too.

The right I have done is buying what I like to wear and to look at and kept the mantra "condition, condition, condition" close to my heart. I have not had an investors perspective. As one close to me said regarding art - "Buy what you like to have on your wall to look at - and in the end if it happens to have been a good investment - perfect. If not you still have a painting you like..."

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That gold Constellation is very nice.
 
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Best and worst thing I did while collecting is actually wearing the watches I was collecting… 😟 ah ah ah
 
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Wrong: I didn’t do much research and believe every word from the seller I just met and got burned for it.
Right: I do lots and lots of homework for each model of the watch that I plan on purchase, most importantly, be patience.
 
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Biggest early wrong was falling in love with a watch and in that neglecting the obvious re-dial. I should have used my eyes... I believe it was in 2006.

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On the bright side - as @STANDY - I have kept all my "cheap" watches because I liked them. Now they are not that cheap anymore... I have also kept almost all (95%) of my "expensive" watches because I like them. That feels good too.

The right I have done is buying what I like to wear and to look at and kept the mantra "condition, condition, condition" close to my heart. I have not had an investors perspective. As one close to me said regarding art - "Buy what you like to have on your wall to look at - and in the end if it happens to have been a good investment - perfect. If not you still have a painting you like..."

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Beautiful watches and top notch photography. That Seamaster is cool on that rally strap, no wonder you fell for it.