Vintage triple date moonphase --movements and pics!

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Breitling ref. 804. Currently being serviced so it can be worn after sitting for many moons.
 
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Breitling ref. 804. Currently being serviced so it can be worn after sitting for many moons.

Nice, that's a TDMP plus chrono, what's the case size?
 
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Joining the club with this

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those lugs are amazing and the gold with the blue hands......LOVE IT!
 
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Not as old as some of you are posting, but figured I would post my nearly 20 year old JLC
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It's not been out for a while and love the impact of a grey winter's day on the dial!

 
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Breitling ref. 804. Currently being serviced so it can be worn after sitting for many moons.
Probably Valjoux 88 movement .
 
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We know the typical moon phase from floor clocks. They came out with the design about 400 years ago. The moon phase meant more when the world was pitch black. A near full moon meant we could come back late from town or grandmas' house and still see the road. The old "it's a full moon out" syndrome may have had more to do with high activity during more lit dates than moon induced behavior abnormalities.
 
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I saw this advertised in an upcoming auction...


It's listed as a 1950s Breguet, steel, manual winding, caliber 382 triple date moonphase. But a couple of alarms are going off in my head. For one thing, I can't find any other example of a Breguet TDMP. For another, the T in the signature appears to be missing the cross-stroke. For yet another, I can't find any mention of Breguet ever offering a "caliber 382" (or any other manufacture with a 382 moonphase, for that matter). And yes, the discs have appeared to have aged worse than the dial.

Can anyone make sense of this, other than to run screaming? I haven't asked the auctioneer for more info because I can't imagine it'll get any better, really.
 
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It is all a bit useless conjecture without a photo at the very least of the movement.

One can only presume there is a reason the auctioneer doesnt want to show the movement. The only mystery is why he carefully describes the movement by calibre if he isnt going to show it.

I will say that for the first half of the 20th century, Breguet didnt control their production processes i the way they did while Abraham Louis was alive, or when they started production of the beautiful ALB lookalikes and Mark XXs. I had a 1936 Breguet driver's watch which has a perfectly respectable very high quality non-Breguet marked movement
 
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Lot of junk in this auction....
 
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I saw this advertised in an upcoming auction...


It's listed as a 1950s Breguet, steel, manual winding, caliber 382 triple date moonphase. But a couple of alarms are going off in my head. For one thing, I can't find any other example of a Breguet TDMP. For another, the T in the signature appears to be missing the cross-stroke. For yet another, I can't find any mention of Breguet ever offering a "caliber 382" (or any other manufacture with a 382 moonphase, for that matter). And yes, the discs have appeared to have aged worse than the dial.

Can anyone make sense of this, other than to run screaming? I haven't asked the auctioneer for more info because I can't imagine it'll get any better, really.

without knowing anything about these watches, this looks like a redial to me —
And a relatively blatant one at that.
The paint is bleeding unevenly all over the side of those raised numerals, and the subdial is also a giveaway.
Best regards
 
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Lot of junk in this auction....
Unfortunately, even my inexperienced eye is coming to that conclusion as well. I started by making a first pass and narrowed it down to about 8 for closer inspection. But as I look closer and closer I'm realizing why most of the estimates are about 1/5th what they should be for quality pieces.
 
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So beautiful... Yeah they just gotta have the month day windows beneath the 12, moon phase above 6. Otherwise they don't look right... This beautiful one caught my eye the other day. Extremely pricey but still worth admiring.

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