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Ultraman321
·The Ultraman resource page sent to you by @gatorcpa discusses the shiny dial issue and it sounds like the author (@Spacefruit ) does not think it is necessary criteria, at least that’s how I read it.
Verifying a '68 "Ultraman" without the Extract of the Archives?
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Dan S
·The shiny dial is obvious when you handle the watch and view it at various angles with respect to the lighting. It has a more glossy appearance than a typical dial. I have only handled one of the glossy dials in person, but it was clearly different than a typical pre-moon dial. I think that the shiny dials were specific to the Ultraman release, but there are certainly legit Ultraman examples that don't have the shiny dial.
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Ultraman321
·The shiny dial is obvious when you handle the watch and view it at various angles with respect to the lighting. It has a more glossy appearance than a typical dial. I have only handled one of the glossy dials in person, but it was clearly different than a typical pre-moon dial. I think that the shiny dials were specific to the Ultraman release, but there are certainly legit Ultraman examples that don't have the shiny dial.
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Dan S
·If it's important to you, I'd suggest trying to connect with an expert in-person. Many photos have been posted of the shiny dials and typical dials, you can find them with a bit of effort. However, while you can see differences in photos, the differences are more apparent in the hand. It's not trivial to capture gloss and texture in photos.
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Ultraman321
·If it's important to you, I'd suggest trying to connect with an expert in-person. Many photos have been posted of the shiny dials and typical dials, you can find them with a bit of effort. However, while you can see differences in photos, the differences are more apparent in the hand. It's not trivial to capture gloss and texture in photos.
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Porteroso
·You could search this forum too. The down arrow besides "Forum" gets you to the advanced search. It is quite good.
However, just to put it out there, buying original examples of watches is a different specialty than servicing them. Several of what I consider to be experts have weighed in on this thread. Nobody is going to definitively tell you unless they can clearly see everything they are looking for. Internet pictures just aren't the same.
It is a great looking watch, and since you have a real connection to it, the main value is there. Hope you get to enjoy it in good health!
However, just to put it out there, buying original examples of watches is a different specialty than servicing them. Several of what I consider to be experts have weighed in on this thread. Nobody is going to definitively tell you unless they can clearly see everything they are looking for. Internet pictures just aren't the same.
It is a great looking watch, and since you have a real connection to it, the main value is there. Hope you get to enjoy it in good health!
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WatchClarity
·My advice: forget about it and enjoy the watch. It's a 10/10 and I'm jealous 😅
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·My advice: forget about it and enjoy the watch. It's a 10/10 and I'm jealous 😅
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Ron_W
·I honestly don’t know what a ‘typical dial’ looks like in this context. Without a side-by-side photo, it’s hard for me to understand the difference. If you have a clear photo of an Ultraman with the shiny dial you are talking about, that would be very helpful for comparison.
and this thread has a comparison picture
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Ultraman321
·Here is another thread on this subject
and this thread has a comparison picture
Thanks for the links! Now that I see the examples, it looks like my watch does have a glossy dial after all - at least to my eyes.
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Ron_W
·it looks like my watch does have a glossy dial after all - at least to my eyes.
I had the same experience with a Tropical dial Speedmaster which only showed itself under certain light. Just experiment a bit.
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorAnother thread here about the Ultraman:
gatorcpa
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Ultraman321
·Great ! The shine may turn up better in pictures if you hold the watch in direct(sun) light and move it around a bit to photograph it at the best angle.
I had the same experience with a Tropical dial Speedmaster which only showed itself under certain light. Just experiment a bit.
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OneTwo
·Thank you - the dial looks more matte than shiny, just like in the photos.
From this last photo I’d wager that this dial either might still be glossy in the right light or was quite glossy at one time and has patinated a bit over time. Could also be a semi-gloss dial as there have confirmed examples of those as well. In no way saying I’m an expert, but I’ve drooled over many ultraman and standard speedmaster references over the years, and I’m not completely sold that this is a run of the mill matte dial. It could just be the lighting and sure I could be completely mistaken having not seen the watch in person, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I wouldn’t rule out a glossy dial. You’d need to post some photos in direct sunlight, or a video if possible, for others here to comment.
Here’s an example from the Davidoff Brothers of a semi-gloss dial.
Edit was to fix my spelling of patinated. Dang autocorrect.
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Ultraman321
·From this last photo I’d wager that this dial either might still be glossy in the right light or was quite glossy at one time and has patinated a bit over time. Could also be a semi-gloss dial as there have confirmed examples of those as well. In no way saying I’m an expert, but I’ve drooled over many ultraman and standard speedmaster references over the years, and I’m not completely sold that this is a run of the mill matte dial. It could just be the lighting and sure I could be completely mistaken having not seen the watch in person, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I wouldn’t rule out a glossy dial. You’d need to post some photos in direct sunlight, or a video if possible, for others here to comment.
Here’s an example from the Davidoff Brothers of a semi-gloss dial.
Edit was to fix my spelling of patinated. Dang autocorrect.
Thanks for sharing your perspective. I’ll try to take some sunlight photos at some point, but for now I can only say that in person it looks closer to the glossy examples than the matte ones.
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SpeedyPhill
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Surely the number of only 50 Speedmaster Ultraman produced must have been updated over the years?
AFAIK almost half-a-dozen are seen in the 1969 movie " Marooned - The Saga of Ironman One "
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Ultraman321
·Surely the number of only 50 Speedmaster Ultraman produced must have been updated over the years?
AFAIK almost half-a-dozen are seen in the 1969 movie " Marooned - The Saga of Ironman One "
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Ultraman321
·Looking at the still picture, the watch doesn’t actually seem to be a genuine Speedmaster. The dial printing and logo are clearly different. Of course, I might be wrong..
Looking at the still again, I think I may have been mistaken. The shadow of the orange hand seems to obscure the text, and the Omega logo might just be too faint to show up clearly in this frame. So it could well be a genuine Speedmaster after all..
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SpeedyPhill
·Indeed, the 145.012 version had a large applied logo above that text, so the six watches seen in the movie must be correct Ultraman versions
Always wondered why the Ultraman was chosen:
1. It simply was available at the time of filming (1968)
2. If fitted color-wise very nicely with the red helmet and the accents on the astronauts' space suit.
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(Photo: Colombia Pictures Corp.)
Always wondered why the Ultraman was chosen:
1. It simply was available at the time of filming (1968)
2. If fitted color-wise very nicely with the red helmet and the accents on the astronauts' space suit.
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SpeedyPhill
·Interesting to know that already half-a-dozen (of allegedly only 50 produced) Speedmaster 145.012-67 Ultraman show up in this movie. Especially in a time when product placement wasn't a thing yet... compared to "The Right Stuff" (1983), "Apollo 13" (1995), "First man" (2018), "Moonfall" (2022) and "Ultraman Omega" (2025).
It would be interesting to know how many Speedmaster Ultraman were used during the making of the late 1960s Japanese Ultra Series "Ultraman" Tsuburaya productions! It has been almost 60 years after all...
https://www.fratellowatches.com/speedmaster-ultraman/#gref
It would be interesting to know how many Speedmaster Ultraman were used during the making of the late 1960s Japanese Ultra Series "Ultraman" Tsuburaya productions! It has been almost 60 years after all...
https://www.fratellowatches.com/speedmaster-ultraman/#gref
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