Hello all, I have a question regarding the Omega EotA and the information it provides, assuming you have probably seen about a million of them. A while ago I purchased a 136.0104 Geneve (grey sunburst) that came with the EotA. For the dial it states: “Not mentioned”. For a Speedy Professional that belongs to a friend, the respective EotA states “Black, with luminous indices” - for another Speedy I’ve also seen “Black”, even though the watch clearly had luminous indices, too. Do you have an explanation for why that is, do for example Omegas built before a certain year not have an information regarding the dial in the Omega archives? Also, a specific reason for me to ask is that I might be about to get my hands on what’s a “small grail” (yesyes, oxymoron) for me: A pie pan constellation black dial. I am aware most of them are redials, I am pretty confident with this one, knowing the seller who offered to have it checked by an Omega specialist. As soon as I can do pictures I’d be happy to have you guys rip it apart / confirm it as well, but nevertheless... I’d love to have that red map with the fake wax signet and the nice, thick paper inside, stating that this is in fact a factory black dial. It probably doesn’t raise the value of the watch to have the EotA included, but I don’t really care, it’s a completely emotional thing. Ordering it, just to read “Dial: not mentioned” would drive me nuts. Really looking forward to your expertise.
You won’t get that. No one ever kept track of dials at Omega. They did not take pictures of every watch as it left the factory. The best you can hope for is that the movement is listed as having been placed in the same case reference as submitted. This is why I stopped asking Omega for information when they started charging for the service. I frankly don’t see a lot of value. If you have an exceedingly rare watch, some companies will do a more extensive search and give you a Certificate of Authenticity for a much larger fee. For this, you will need to send the watch to the factory for inspection. I don’t believe Omega does this at present. gatorcpa
Thanks for your input. Although black piepans might be relatively rare, they aren’t worth THAT effort, I suppose. Even though I stated it’s mostly for sentimental value, the „proof“ comes with a price tag attached to getting it. And when I can get another nice vintage timepiece for that price tag I’d probably put the sentimental value aside and enjoy the watch anyhow.
I think Omega started offering the COA service recently: https://www.omegawatches.com/certificate-of-authenticity-stores Best Duccio
I don't understand the comment "no-one ever kept track of dials at Omega" when every extract I've ever seen specifies dial details - am I misunderstanding the point?
Yes, you are misunderstanding the point. For most vintage Omega models there were several different combinations of dial colors, fonts and/or markers. The extracts do not specify which dial combination was mated to a specific movement. Some AD’s had the ability to swap out or special order dials which they (and not Omega) installed. So there is really no sure way for Omega to know if a dial was originally on a watch. gatorcpa
@MtV, for what it is worth, you could always post the dial here for scrutiny. I am confident that this place is as good or better at evaluating whether the watch is a redial than any Omega authority out there.
Thank you for the offer, I will certainly do that once I got some pictures - it’ll be about two weeks, I think. Also, I‘d like to emphasize that my interest in the EotA doesn’t mean that I don’t trust the quality of your feedback here. Having clicked through I don’t know how many pages of this sub-forum I’m staggered by the amount of knowledge and attention to detail some of you have, spotting redials where I‘d never assumed them. I don’t need the EotA to feel sure about the dial. I just really like the way of it.