Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

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banders

·Mar 20, 2025

This beauty has surfaced again, with a bit of wear and tear on it

new listing

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I know these things are meant to be worn, but I'm a little bummed to see one of the most minty tris I've come across turn up in worse condition

Clearly it's still an amazing watch and if the price was lower I'd snatch it up

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Mark020

·Mar 20, 2025·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Asking is insane

 

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magana_manuel

·Mar 20, 2025

Both Zenith are beautiful!

 

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Redondo444

·Mar 23, 2025

Two nice golden ones sold today in Italy at an auction.


This beautiful 481101/03 in 14ct sold for 12k eur plus around 30% fees
https://www.drouot.com/lots/28023895

Then there was another nice golden sold for 3.9k eur plus around 30% fees
https://www.drouot.com/lots/28023896

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bgrisso

·Mar 24, 2025

This case is wild, I was trying to figure out what was going on with the lugs for a while ! can't tell if someone has polished the spider lugs down to nubs, or if they fell off (common) and fabricated and re-attached something completely different, or a mix of both, or what ?!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1673971200...-bcb9-f284e25d534e|iid:1|vlpname:vlp_homepage

 

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bgrisso

·Mar 24, 2025

This is what a 21312 case should look like (maybe a little unfair to compare to this time capsule)....but you get the general idea.....

 

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fizz

·Mar 25, 2025

This allegedly rare UG Autorem, purportedly to be the first automatic self winding movement from UG, was offered for EUR 1900 (now sold) on IG (link to the listing below).

Curiously, it seems the same watch has been sold a few times before:

1 - First at an Antiquorum auction (here).
2 - Subsequently right here on OF about a decade ago (with some debate about the authenticity of the claims, especially related to the dating/year)
3 - One of the eventual buyers/owners talked about it on the Italian Orologi forum as well with some pictures

Serial no seems to be the same on all (1514).

Would love to hear any views here about it.

I didn't buy, though I had a good discussion with the seller (who may be a member here, who knows), and it seems over the course of it's ownership the dial has been clearly relumed at some point.

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banders

·Mar 25, 2025

Mark020

Asking is insane

Def agree with you, but looks like it's no longer available so I assume someone bought it 🙈

Eric Wind also had this tri listed at 23k and it sold quickly

Seems like there are a few people out there willing to pay a lot of money for an original tri

 

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jumpingsecond

·Mar 25, 2025

I call bs on the ug autorem. Can't wait for more to pop up in the 5 years from now proving me wrong 😉

 

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fizz

·Mar 26, 2025

jumpingsecond

I call bs on the ug autorem. Can't wait for more to pop up in the 5 years from now proving me wrong 😉

I didn't try to search for it in the Sala book (don't remember it being there) but Wikipedia mentioned the Autorem too as UG's first automatic watch.

 

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jumpingsecond

·Mar 26, 2025

fizz

I didn't try to search for it in the Sala book (don't remember it being there) but Wikipedia mentioned the Autorem too as UG's first automatic watch.

So its interesting if you look at Wikipedia the reference for this so called 'auto rem' was a book written by a former model and media personality Reyne Haines. She wrote a book called "vintage wristwatches" in 2010 which she somehow included a blurb about this auto rem and it being Universal's 1st patented automatic wrist watch in 1925...Anyone can add anything to Wikipedia with some obscure reference and have it codified onto their site. Maybe Ms. Reyne knows more about UG though than the collective UG cohort on OF but maybe its all bs and she picked it up from here : https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/lot-54-154

And just to be clear Antiquorum is the original Nigerian Prince of Auction Houses 😂

 

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iltdy

·Mar 26, 2025

is this a redial~？ the subdials beyond the scale really bothered me but rarebirds seems to have high profile in dealing with vintage watches

 

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iltdy

·Mar 26, 2025

iltdy

is this a redial~？ the subdials beyond the scale really bothered me but rarebirds seems to have high profile in dealing with vintage watches

anyone can help👍

 

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CaptainWinsor

·Mar 26, 2025

iltdy

anyone can help👍

Gut feeling, yes

 

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vujen

·Mar 27, 2025

imho 100% correct

 

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Mark020

·Mar 27, 2025·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

OP opened a thread in th Zenith section. I initally thought it was correct but now I have doubts. IMHO it does not pass the ‘55’ test. I posted some comps in the other thread

 

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Mark020

·Mar 31, 2025·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Weird one: https://www.wallapop.com/item/universal-geneve-crono-1112314147

 

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Carlton-Browne

·Apr 1, 2025

Mark020

Weird one: https://www.wallapop.com/item/universal-geneve-crono-1112314147

Extremely!

 

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Mark020

·Apr 1, 2025·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Pics are poor but I'm realy curious what it is. Fake? No really logical. Late(r) service case?

 

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Carlton-Browne

·Apr 1, 2025

Mark020

Pics are poor but I'm realy curious what it is. Fake? No really logical. Late(r) service case?

The crown looks like it's from an Italian Railroad. I'm inclined to think a bitsa where someone has decided the best way to deal with accusations that it's not genuine is by engraving Universal Geneve in the largest possible font on the caseback.