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The Timeless Watch Channel from YouTube won’t return Bogart watch [Watches now Returned]

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@STANDY, did you see that there is a thread on MWR accusing you and @JimInOz of attempting to manipulate the vintage Seiko market? Scandalous! 😉

MWR is that old pony still kicking around. Man that website was clunky 10 years ago…..

But where…..Links ?
 
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He did in a video that he must have deleted. Again, he claims this lady and her boyfriend got nasty on him.
Yes, victim blaming does appear to be his standard operating procedure.


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But surely you'd have to do that to get both sides of this? This is what I'm talking about, you read some posts by Person A who claims Oisin did him wrong and then you immediately don the pitchforks. And then you have Person B, Oisin, putting out a video giving his seed and you won't watch it?
He has admitted that he has to return the watches and owes the money, he has made zero effort to return the watches and return the money. That’s a concise summary of his side. Still no indication that he has any intention of making a single thing right.
 
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Having known a few pathological liars in my life, I recognize the signs and I don't really need to hear his side of the story. It will just be fiction.

Interesting how we have a couple of lurkers surfacing to defend this guy. First "Marco", now @RC71. Give me a break.
 
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But surely you'd have to do that to get both sides of this? This is what I'm talking about, you read some posts by Person A who claims Oisin did him wrong and then you immediately don the pitchforks. And then you have Person B, Oisin, putting out a video giving his seed and you won't watch it?

Here is how I see it, you have persons A,B and C all saying person "O" has done them wrong. Person "O" does a 2 hour rambling video that does nothing to convince me he is anything other than what he has been accused of. Sorry mate, Person "O" is just not the man you think he is.
 
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This guy could have driven the 50 minutes to wherever he needed to go, posted the Bogart watch back to the OP, and driven back home in less time than he spent on that pathetic live stream.
 
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But surely you'd have to do that to get both sides of this? This is what I'm talking about, you read some posts by Person A who claims Oisin did him wrong and then you immediately don the pitchforks. And then you have Person B, Oisin, putting out a video giving his seed and you won't watch it?

I did watch it. I’ve gotten both sides and to anyone who has any sense of what is right and wrong, any sense of justice, and any sense of people, it’s very clear who is in the wrong here. It’s Oisin...
 
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And you think forming a Lynch mob will improve this? Or fix this? And we, or at least I, have learned from listening to both sides that the Nico story is not as Nico was claiming. There was more to it.

The only person who can “fix this” is Oisin. What bringing awareness does is prevent others from being victims of this guy.
 
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This guy could have driven the 50 minutes to wherever he needed to go, posted the Bogart watch back to the OP, and driven back home in less time than he spent on that pathetic live stream.

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But he would have to be sober for 100 minutes
 
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And you think forming a Lynch mob will improve this? Or fix this? And we, or at least I, have learned from listening to both sides that the Nico story is not as Nico was claiming. There was more to it.
There is no lunch mob lol. Just people who watched his video and said omg this guy is nuts.
 
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Oh there’s plenty of livestreams with some other watch guys where they all sit in their little rooms and deblaterate about me and my life, browsing through my social medias and giving their opinions about any detail. The story from my side was posted on Instagram in this screenshot:

I remember those live streams talking badly about you without any possibility for you to express your point of view of the situation. So many "fans" of VIP Monsieur Oisin himself blatantly laughing at you and judging you "on your back". It was hard to watch and was the first time that I started questioning his attitude in the chat of the stream. His fan base did not react well and I was told to stop making irrelevant comments. Happy that you are still around and strong as you seem to be. The recent history is somehow putting back "l'église au milieu du village", as we say in France.
 
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we, or at least I, have learned from listening to both sides that the Nico story is not as Nico was claiming. There was more to it.

Has Mr O’Malley posted series of screen grabs and full transcript of messages or any evidence as the OP, Usman and Nico did? The rest is kind of superfluous narrative.
 
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There is no lunch mob lol. Just people who watched his video and said omg this guy is nuts.

Personally not into lynch mobs,...but I’m all over being part of a lunch mob...sounds tasty!
 
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And we, or at least I, have learned from listening to both sides that the Nico story is not as Nico was claiming. There was more to it.

Tbh, I, for one, don't really care much about the Nico stuff... that's money hungry grey dealer drama that often comes at the expense, not benefit, of collectors. The central issue (for me) is the refusal to return watches to enthusiasts. There's no debate about the facts there, only persistently deplorable behavior on the part of Oisin.
 
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And you think forming a Lynch mob will improve this? Or fix this? And we, or at least I, have learned from listening to both sides that the Nico story is not as Nico was claiming. There was more to it.

Tell your boy to return 5 watches and cut the bullshit
 
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And you think forming a Lynch mob will improve this? Or fix this? And we, or at least I, have learned from listening to both sides that the Nico story is not as Nico was claiming. There was more to it.

Whatever "more" there was to Nico story is of little relevance to the matter of deciding what kind of person we're dealing with here. The facts we know from his own statements are quite enough: he got watches from people he would not return for no legitimate reason whatsoever and he repeatedly lied, threatened, bullied (oh yes those favourite words of his) and deflected responsibility in order not to return those watches. I would say that's more than enough to assess the situation and his role in it.
 
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Tbh, I, for one, don't really care much about the Nico stuff... that's money hungry grey dealer drama that often comes at the expense, not benefit, of collectors. The central issue (for me) is the refusal to return watches to enthusiasts. There's no debate about the facts there, only persistently deplorable behavior on the part of Oisin.

I don’t like seeing anyone ripped off, but the watches that haven’t been returned are also my primary focus.

When it comes to arguing over details of a watch being a late 2018 or early 2019 model, or if there was some sort of arbitrage type play involved in the timing of payments, etc, my eyes glaze over a bit. Still it appears that money is owed to Nico, no matter what details about these other things are in dispute.
 
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This guy could have driven the 50 minutes to wherever he needed to go, posted the Bogart watch back to the OP, and driven back home in less time than he spent on that pathetic live stream.
That would be quite a task for him to drive, literally. If I recall correctly in a few streams, he's mentioned he does not know how to drive.
 
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Venice used to be one of the biggest commercial hub of Europe in the past centuries but it seems that now it is impossible to send, from there, a parcel abroad.
 
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