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Seamaster Reverse Panda: How one of the rarest Omega watches stayed under the radar until now.

  1. VintageMasters Jan 14, 2023

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    As my 1 year anniversary with this watch in possession is approaching, I wanted to share some of the info I found on this wonderful model. Grab a coffee and enjoy!

    THE STORY

    The 145.005 is a classic reference among Omega Seamaster enthusiasts, featuring a case with straight lugs, pump pushers, and the well-known caliber 321 movement. The 145.005 was initially designed to provide an all-round watch that could be worn while being active as well as sitting in the boardroom.

    The 145.005-67 had a special dial version which I’ll cover today. It is an extremely rare variation and it is believed that just a couple were produced. The Seamaster Reverse Panda with an Ultraman-like orange chronograph hand comes from the same timeframe as its Speedmaster counterpart. However, I haven’t found any evidence that the hands are exactly alike. The production numbers are estimates at best; all we know for certain is how many appeared on the market over the years – only around ten examples.

    In this post, all known examples are listed alongside the information that’s available on them.

    Please find more pictures in the article on my website: https://www.vintagemasters.eu/experience/omega-seamaster-reverse-panda-chronograph/ (will be updated ongoingly when new information arises).

    What we know:

    • The Reverse Panda dial was common in that era, many manufacturers of racing chronographs produced watches with either Panda or Reverse Panda dials (Rolex Daytona, Heuer Autavia among others).
    • The Omega Museum has an example in their collection (more on this below)
    • Multiple watches with the “Ultraman” hand were part of Omega’s 1968 collection, such as the Chronostop and multiple Geneve models with colored dials (the 166.041 for example).
    • All previous online eBay listings and the extracts known show the USA as the delivery country.
    What I expect:

    • In 1968 the Olympic Games in Mexico were held from October 12 until October 27. Omega was the official timekeeper. At least 2 of the known examples of the Reverse Panda 145.005 were produced on September 24th, 1968, just before the start of the Olympic Games. As we know from the one “untouched” full set known to exist, the official box for the 145.005 from 1968 is a special bakelite box. Produced to commemorate Omega’s involvement in the 1968 Mexico Olympics, these boxes are extremely hard to find. They were produced in a few different configurations. This leads me to think that at least some of the 1968 watches with sporty orange hands were produced to commemorate the Olympic Games of that year.

    Example 1

    This example appeared on eBay in 2017. It has the same thin hand as the Omega museum piece which led me to believe that there are 2 orange hand variations for this model. On which later more.

    After a closer inspection, I am 99% sure that this example is the museum piece!

    I tried sharpening the serial number on the movement and expect it to be: 26,547,964.

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    Source: https://petrolicious.com/articles/3-vintage-driving-watches-you-can-buy-right-now-27#&gid=1&pid=3

    Example 2

    This is the Omega museum piece. It has the same thin hand as Example 1. At first, I thought there would be 2 variations for the orange hand. However, after researching the shape of the hand and other examples on the web I am pretty sure that the hand used to be white (i.e. belongs to the normal version 145.005) and is simply painted orange. Did you see that they kept the strap that accompanied it on the eBay listing?

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    Source: my visit to the museum.

    Example 3

    The one that makes things complicated.

    This example has the same hand as Examples 1 and 2. Would this mean that my hypothesis is wrong regarding the painted orange hand?

    I’ve put them next to each other and I am pretty sure that it’s the same watch. The crown has been replaced by an original one and the box was added.

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    Source: https://omegaforums.net/threads/unusual-dial-on-145-005-67.30973/

    Example 4

    The benchmark.

    This example was posted by Omegaforums member @kov . He wrote a detailed post about the remarkable story of how he acquired his Reverse Panda. Link below.

    His example is believed to be untouched, hence showing the original parts, optional steel bracelet, original box, original orange hand, and the place of sale.

    The info:

    • Produced on September 24, 1968
    • Purchased on June 10, 1969
    • Delivered to: USA, Florida-based Jeweller
    • Serial number: 26,547,9xx
    • The 145.005 could be delivered on leather or a steel bracelet. Deriving from this example the optional steel bracelet reference should be a 1039/570 BOR bracelet.
    KOV’s example shows a flat feet crown, which is different than the other known examples. His watch was sent to Omega once for a movement overhaul, either this type of flat feet crown is the one belonging to this watch or it’s possible that the crown was changed during the service.

    We know the crown from the above examples was changed once, that one is not a flat feet crown.

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    Source: https://omegaforums.net/threads/the...321-seamaster-chronograph.93022/#post-1206137

    Example 5

    Found on finertimes.com (a website from the USA).

    Serial: 26541247

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    Source: https://omegaforums.net/threads/is-this-one-worth-consideration.15681/#post-172832

    Example 6

    For this one, I used web archive wayback machine to find the pictures again.

    The serial number is unreadable, unfortunately.

    eBay seller is from the USA

    Check the yellowish “stain” on the bottom subdial and the a4298 inscription inside the case back. This looks to be the same watch as Example 5.

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    Source: https://web.archive.org/web/2015103...2015/02/1967-running-omega-seamaster-321.html

    Example 7

    From OF member @kyle L

    A nice looking example. The serial seems to be in the correct range: 26541264

    Kyle remarked that his right subdial hand looks to be replaced as it's thinner than the others.

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    Source: https://omegaforums.net/threads/unusual-dial-on-145-005-67.30973/

    Example 8

    A great looking example with a perfect dial. The serial is somewhat unclear but let's check out the next example...

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    Source: https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-seamaster-chrono-advice-needed.32490/#post-364374

    Example 9

    This one is from Alex from Vision Vintage Watches. When I asked him where he acquired it he told me he bought it off eBay while driving in Switzerland. A lucky find!

    The serial number is: 26541243

    Note how the dial looks the same as the previous one. The serial number is also very similar... Seems to be the same watch.

    Alex has put it on a 1039/570,70 BOR bracelet which is believed to be at least period correct.

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    Source: https://www.visionvintagewatches.com/product-page/1967-omega-seamaster-145-007-panda-dial

    Example 10

    This example is from @duffy7 (massive thanks for the effort!):

    "Unfortunately I don´t have an EoA but your serial number (should be 26,547,996 if I am correct) and mine 26,547,9xx) match perfectly.

    I found my Seamaster Panda Chrono with a watch dealer in New York. Kovs example also came from the USA and if I remember correctly the eBay auctions were all situated in the US.

    Because of this and the OXG engraving on the movement (for the import to the USA) I am sure this was a special patch for the US market. (maybe for the Navy as the former owner of kovs example was a Navy guy – I can`t prove this at all)

    The correct crown should be a flat feet crown. (have only seen kovs with flat feet)"

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    Source: https://omegaforums.net/threads/wha...ns-in-2021-watches.140150/page-2#post-1907747

    Example 11

    Another example I found on OF.
    The serial is 26550517

    With this one, it's unusual it is a 105 and not a 145. The serial is still reasonably close to the others if we compare it to the others. The case back might have been swapped.

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    Source: https://omegaforums.net/threads/cal-321-speedmasters-and-non-speedmasters.56977/#post-703565

    Example 12

    My own watch and the one that sparked my interest in investigating this special piece.

    The serial is 26547996.

    I ordered an extract that shows the production date: 24 September 1968
    This one was delivered to the USA as well.

    My example, unfortunately, had the pushers and crown replaced with the last service.

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    Concluding remarks:

    There are 8 examples, of which one has a different reference number, known.

    The serial numbers:

    26,541,243
    26,541,247
    26,541,264
    26,547,964 (Omega Museum)
    26,547,996 (Extract)
    26,547,9xx (Extract and first owner set)
    26,547,9xx
    26,550,517

    The above list leads us to believe that these watches were produced in 2 or 3 batches. It would be cool if extracts were available for the outlier serial numbers.

    If anyone has more information on this model feel free to reply to this thread or send me a private message. Also, if anyone has the correct pushers let me know ;)

    Thanks for reading! Hope you enjoyed it!

    Many thanks to all who answered questions, making this research possible! Thanks to OF for being a great place. All picture credits are due to their original owners.
     
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  2. MtV Jan 14, 2023

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    Didn’t see this one coming Stan. Great write-up, thank you!
     
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  3. kaplan Jan 14, 2023

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    Wow, congrats, incredible documentation!
     
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  4. SC1 Jan 14, 2023

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    Fantastic read thank you - very enjoyable to learn about this one.
     
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  5. unxsr Jan 15, 2023

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    Amazing post. Thank you!
     
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  6. BarbVl Jan 15, 2023

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    Nice thread..Thank you!
     
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  7. la_lusigne Jan 15, 2023

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    Enjoyable read, thanks for sharing :thumbsup:
     
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  8. Davidt Jan 15, 2023

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    I love these kind of threads that deep dive into a particular reference or dial type. Great research
     
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  9. Pvt-Public Jan 15, 2023

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    Any theories on the different shape chrono hands?
     
  10. VintageMasters Jan 15, 2023

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    I think it's either an orange painted regular hand or 2 versions exist.
     
  11. LesXL Jan 15, 2023

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    Meneer! Wow
    Uitstekende post Stan. Zoveel informatie
     
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  12. YYTIN Jan 15, 2023

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  14. U5512 Jan 15, 2023

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    Awesome post with great information and pictures!!!
     
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  15. perenowell Jan 16, 2023

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    Great post!! :thumbsup:
    I love these threads. A lot to learn and to discover a specific reference.

    Thanks a lot!
     
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  16. Risto Jan 16, 2023

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    Great research! Thank you!

    Interestingly, there was one sample for sale under the Private Sales section for a long time.
    I was surprised that there was not much interest. Or perhaps the pricing was a bit on the higher side.
    But, using site search I cannot find it anymore.
     
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  17. perenowell Jan 16, 2023

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    This one ?
     
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  18. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Jan 16, 2023

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    Great article and work combining the known examples! I am super lucky to own this one as it was completely by chance... in 2016/2017 I received an email from a woman whose father had unfortunately passed and left a lot of watchmaking projects. Ended up buying a few pieces, but this one was the one that stood out!

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  19. VintageMasters Jan 16, 2023

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    Yeah I bought that one ;)
     
  20. jaguar11 Jan 17, 2023

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    An enjoyable read about a reference I knew little about!!!!
     
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