The Timeless Watch Channel from YouTube won’t return Bogart watch [Watches now Returned]

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I won't be giving this guy any more views as it will only benefit his garbage channel. I'm sure someone here will post the relevant details.
 
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Not sure who is interacting with him on Instagram comments but I took some screenshots so folks here can see the conversation:



EDIT: It appears this conversation has been deleted from IG.
the_unpredictedjourney is me and he blocked me. Not surprised. Here is another screenshot of him stating to break the law to get around customs

 
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He has no other choice than react because a flood of comments became beyond manageable for one person.


@collector1946 does "all set up" mean he's reach out to you recently and you are content?
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EDIT: sorry for the snark. It’s just frustrating to try and help, necessarily avoid all sorts of nuance or obviousness in a forum post, that this guy has been sent and is reading along with us, only to have multiple retorts that in my view are neither very generous in interpretation nor appreciating some challenges to the legal options many are clamoring for

This was the very first line in your original post, to which I responded:

So, which of our members are in Italy to arrange a videotaped exchange of the watch (and materials) at an agreed public location?

I never suggested that lawyers shouldn't attempt to resolve the problem amicably, only that it would be ill-advised for any member of this forum to meet with the man, no matter how much they may wish to help.
 
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perhaps members should refrain from their usual pissung contests about different legal systems and who can best predict human behaviours and how to parse each others replies, and keep the focus on the poor guys who are trying to get their watches back ? Just a thought..
 
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I noticed that Oisin has been featured a few times on C24s website/YT channel. Does anyone have direct contact info for folks @C24? I would think that if the issues raised in this thread were brought to their attention it would at the very least sound an alarm.
 
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Hopefully someone an download the video or make a copy...having that could be useful.
My first thought. Pretty sure he'll say some crazy BS, and after the backlash will take it down/delete it.
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My first thought. Pretty sure he'll say some crazy BS, and after the backlash will take/delete it.

FFS, folks he has been provided and is reading this thread

Consider not treating the forum like a secret strategy room
 
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I don't know if anyone has seen the "Baller Busters" account on IG. Basically the guy outs scammers on IG. Most of them are selling crypto courses, or real estate courses, etc. Pretending to be rich when they are not and just taking people's money. This is the same, but with property theft. He is also pulling a scam by using his followers and channel to make people think he is trustworthy. Most likely, his "collection" is also stolen, from others or with other people's money. Its really terrible.
 
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I'm Irish and I am ashamed that he's a countryman.

If it helps, I am often ashamed to be American..... a New Yorker, not as much
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Bullied as a child ? WTH you are a grown man. Who cares about what happened when you were 11 years old. Be a MAN and return the damn item. Rise above being bullied as a child.
 
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It should not need saying but apparently still might help: understanding fully all the myriad of challenges but not writing them each out because they should go without saying so no need to try and enumerate them here thanks:

It strikes me that @Robert-Jan ’s next Speedy Tuesday event is in Milan in just a few weeks, and that perhaps Fratello would be interested in doing a small online story about this interesting Bogart watch?

If @Robert-Jan (or some other Fratello representative) could find any way at all to accommodate collecting the watch (though certainly no expectation that he can, or must, given the practicalities of it all), then I can’t imagine that a fellow journalist that isn’t stealing the watch could refuse to deliver it to a Fratello representative.

Again, if for any reason it brings comfort to the guy to feel this is being mediated somehow through lawyers, my Milan offices would be happy to host.

I simply see no need for the watch to be mailed, and risk loss in the mail, when there are so many good options for it to be hand delivered at an agreed time and place.

EDIT TO ADD FOR CLARITY: the watch and exchange could btw be facilitated by any number of means of convenience, including my law firm could send a bonded professional currier to the location of the watch for collection with receipt at any time between now and Speedy Tuesday Milan, and then held in escrow at my firm, until later collected with notarized receipt by a Fratello representative
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Ground zero,

300 posts and 20,000 view in two days. This has to be close to the record for Omega_Forums threads.

Makes me proud to be a member of this community (even if the mob mentality isn't always healthy or effective).
 
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I'm Irish and I am ashamed that he's a countryman.
I feel the same, worst of all he is a Dub, probably a south side ponce by his accent. No offence meant to the other good south side ponces out there, we can't all be northsiders.
 
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he is an international criminal. he could be very clever as to whom to talk to or meet up with. Best is to seek assistance from interpol. This is borderless criminality. he could be lurking here on OF.
 
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Ground zero,

300 posts and 20,000 view in two days. This has to be close to the record for Omega_Forums threads.

Makes me proud to be a member of this community (even if the mob mentality isn't always healthy or effective).

Yep, mob mentality is very toxic. That said, the evidence against TTWC is pretty clear, by multiple sources.
 
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Bullied as a child ? WTH you are a grown man. Who cares about what happened when you were 11 years old. Be a MAN and return the damn item. Rise above being bullied as a child.
Classic narcissist, he needs some help which makes all of this so sad.
 
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EDIT TO ADD FOR CLARITY: the watch and exchange could btw be facilitated by any number of means of convenience, including my law firm could send a bonded professional currier to the location of the watch for collection with receipt at any time between now and Speedy Tuesday Milan, and then held in escrow at my firm, until later collected with notarized receipt by a Fratello representativ

In fact, I myself will be in Milan from June 4 to June 10, and would be happy to help facilitate using my firm’s resources in any way that might bring comfort to all parties.