The Timeless Watch Channel from YouTube won’t return Bogart watch [Watches now Returned]

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Yea that’s a bit concerning, I’d be pressing the issue and going to the authorities if he drags his feet much longer.

This post said it all.

Nice watch OP. Good luck.
 
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@NicoLeonard for the benefit of visibility, do you mind posting the facts and circumstances that lead you to sending money to Oisin before things went off the rails leading up to that call? This happened a few months ago? Apologies if you've already stated as much but wasn't clear from what I've read so far (appears a failure to deliver watches you wanted to purchase from what you've posted this far).
 
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a fellow journalist
If I may digress, and just as an aside, I’d like to register a strong exception to the use of this term.
 
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I recall the OP posting this watch prior and thinking how cool it was. That night (that I saw he posted it here) I watched Casablanca for the 200th time. I’m a big Bogart fan even read a few books about him. (Orange juice, it was the pain from drinking a glass of OJ that lead him to find out he had cancer) I see these scammers operate and I hate to say it but my immediate thought is the watch is gone. I really hope for the OP’s sake and condition I am wrong but I’ve been burned before and I know the score.

I would rather wear a Casio (no offense to Casio of course) than wear a watch that was obtained via shenanigans. Particular things get a bad rap as an object of scam but honestly anything of value is subject to these leaches whims. It is very disappointing i am glad I can say the last thing I stole was a pack of gum when I was 12 years old. I don’t like the feeling I get when I do wrong, I don’t always understand how many can do it so easily but I witness it far too often.
 
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Just got this at 16.25 today see below.... I'm sure it will be a video of him at DHL posting it !!! YAY now that was easy... and I will be busy living my life doing what I want to do.... so...unfotunate as it may be..... I will have to miss it.

Tune into the channel tonight, Ade.

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 10:55 AM The Timeless Watch Channel <[email protected]> wrote:
Ade.
Please contact a lawyer and have them contact me via email to arrange the return of your property.
The shipment will be marked for it's full value as a precious metal item and will be fully insured.
I will ship only to a lawyers office and with confirmation of receipt.
Thank you.
- Oisin
TTWC
 
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I guess the OP could also send him his lawyer's fees for TTWC to pay as unnecessary procedural expenses.

Any acceptance of a package will also mean acceptance of the condition on the return good.
 
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Don't sign any waiver of filing potential suit against ttwc. He just committed a crime of fraud (estafa in our language when you entrusted him mr bogart as distinguished from simple theft) but repeatedly failing to return mr bogart when you have asked for it.😎😁
 
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Italian State Police in Venice.
And they do speak English, the city is essentially populated with tourists— and this is just as bad as someone being pickpocketed out of their wallet.

La questura · Sestiere di Santa Croce, 500 - 30100 Venezia · telefono: 0412715511 · fax: 0412715402-04 · email: [email protected]

I didn't read the last 5 pages of this saga, but only a remark for those calling on the police for help. I believe that this is unfortunately a civil law matter, as the OP gave the watch voluntarily to the YouTube guy. Feel free to correct me on that, but I believe that the police will not be able to help.

That being said, I feel with the OP and find the behaviour of the counterparty disgusting. All of this follows a concerning pattern that does not give much hope for an easy solution. 🙁
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Just got this at 16.25 today see below.... I'm sure it will be a video of him at DHL posting it !!! YAY now that was easy... and I will be busy living my life doing what I want to do.... so...unfotunate as it may be..... I will have to miss it.

Tune into the channel tonight, Ade.

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 10:55 AM The Timeless Watch Channel <[email protected]> wrote:
Ade.
Please contact a lawyer and have them contact me via email to arrange the return of your property.
The shipment will be marked for it's full value as a precious metal item and will be fully insured.
I will ship only to a lawyers office and with confirmation of receipt.
Thank you.
- Oisin
TTWC

How About you ask him for his Attorney contact info....

and contact them.
 
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I feel the same, worst of all he is a Dub, probably a south side ponce by his accent. No offence meant to the other good south side ponces out there, we can't all be northsiders.
People's Republic myself but I know where your coming from😁
 
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i bought 3 watches, 1 watch was delivered and mis sold! Supposed to be unworn 2019 and it was a worn 2018 other 2 never got sent!
@NicoLeonard for the benefit of visibility, do you mind posting the facts and circumstances that lead you to sending money to Oisin before things went off the rails leading up to that call? This happened a few months ago? Apologies if you've already stated as much but wasn't clear from what I've read so far (appears a failure to deliver watches you wanted to purchase from what you've posted this far).
 
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Agree with Tony.... but please EVERYONE DO NOT PILE ON THIS GUY>>> that wont help .... I would just send a message saying I am looking forward to seeing your upcoming youtube Video on the Bogart Watch..

PS @Tony C. will take care of you today...

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I fifth that. What's it been? A year? There can be no excuse for this kind of asshattery. How could anyone feel the twit who is keeping someone's property is anything other than a dishonest wanker?

And I'm sorry, but no one is going to make a "stop bogarting the Bogart" comment? Ok. I did.

Should call it the "honorless watch channel."
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and would be happy to help facilitate using my firm’s resources in any way that might bring comfort to all parties.
For a mere $1950 an hour... Just kidding 😉
 
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Sadly, in a world gone mad, we grunts only get to keep about 850 of that for ourselves. Life is tough.

Not kidding.
 
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Really can't wait to hear what this guy has to say....

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for the benefit of visibility, do you mind posting the facts and circumstances that lead you to sending money to Oisin before things went off the rails leading up to that call?
Let's also give Nico props for staying as calm as he did on that call. All while shirtless!
 
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Wait just a sec....I can't possibly read all this. I saw the beginning where a guy sent his beloved watch (a very poor choice) to a stranger. Am I seeing that he ALSO sent the f wit money? At some point we have to just write this off to natural selection. If I've got it all wrong, I apologize in advance.

So someone ELSE gave the asshat money? This is tough to follow, and I'm educated.
Next I'm going to learn that OF's own @Mad Dog sent the guy his 105.003 because the guy told him he was going to make a plaster cast, life mask of the 105.003 and send it to the Louvre. Did I spell that right?
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Nico deserves a medal, he is a watch dealer and youtuber a really fun channel, not everyones cup of tea, but all the same fun... he is already getting hate and trolls saying some awful things to him, he was the first youtuber to actually tell his sad story, he's lost 11,000 Euros to this guy.... so hat off to Nico and much much respect....THANK YOU NICO