The Timeless Watch Channel from YouTube won’t return Bogart watch [Watches now Returned]

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This has indeed been a very sad read!
I used to watch Oisin’s TWC from time to time… but after seeing how he has treated the OP and the “class” of some of his responses to people reaching out to him, I can now see his true colors. i am def. done with him.
Good luck OP!!!
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The motive just doesn't seem there IMHO, given his public persona, but call me a sucker if you must.

OK, I'll be that guy, you are a sucker 😁

Scammers always trade on something of a reputation to get the wheels in motion. Example - I recall a good scam run many many years ago on a guy I knew, it was here in Vegas one night in a casino, playing mid-stakes poker, there was a guy at the table losing big, he appeared to be a some kind of vip, had the president suite at the casino, lots of casino mgmt greeting him through the night, etc. His social media was full of pictures with him and celebrities, yada yada. He had some story about being a trust fund kid; anyway, he goes busto on the table and asks this guy I knew for a $5k loan that he would pay back later that night for $10k, as his money was at another casino.. you know the rest of the story, he gets the $5k worth of chips from this guy I know, and blows it in short order, asks for another $10k that he will pay back for $30k, and blows that. Needless to say, the story was complete rubbish, he was a just a low-life grifter, with no trust fund, that would just scam people out of money and the casino mgmt would just look the other way because they were ultimately getting all of it in the end. Lesson learned.

So the scammer here is what.... a youtuber? Sorry, but I don't hold that in any kind of esteem, I'd more readily trust someone working at McDonald's than a random Youtuber (seriously).
 
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Yea I won’t speculate on motive but the reply in one of the comments that he was going to send it out tomorrow but it won’t be happening now, and that the OP will need to go through a lawyer is the type or thing I’ve seen a good many times.

Every time I’ve seen someone do that, the pattern of:

“I was going to do the right thing tomorrow but now that you’ve pestered / questioned me I shall be doing the wrong thing instead and it is all your fault”

It was a guy that did not have any intention of doing it at all. It’s quite a common trope among people who used to be members here.
 
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Change the title to

thetimlesswatchchannel won’t return Bogart watch to owner

and it will light up when someone is searching google 😗
 
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I have asked for some more info from the other lender to The Timless Watch Channel... and I've received this email.. I will open the files and post asap as he has asked me to do this on this post..

The Pepsi Seiko appears in a collection video from 6 months ago but is clearly stated to be owned by others. There is also a link to the watch mod website as an advert. I think that deal is more complex than the OP situation as it has a commercial B-B element and there was an agreement that a watch could be ‘kept’ for services rendered.

In terms of the OP Bogart watch I would make a clear communication that you no longer wish to support a video but that he can use any footage already obtained. You wish the watch returned to you with tracking data by ( list a date) or you will be reporting it to all relevant authorities and taking legal action for recovery. You hope he can understand that you did not anticipate waiting ?? Months to get your property back and that is why have lost confidence in the project and need the watch returned.

The guy is using his own identity and photo ID across multiple platforms / he travels and was at the London watch show and the Rock Band he was in still has some profile. He also owns / has access to a number of high value watches. He would seem to have very little to gain from appropriating a unique historic piece so hopefully this can be resolved amicably between you both without any third parties inflaming things (although this thread may have helped more than hindered). Time to take stock now and they hopefully come back with better news.
 
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Change the title to

thetimlesswatchchannel won’t return Bogart watch to owner

and it will light up when someone is searching google 😗
Well he has already stated on social media that this is the case, thank you and done
 
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I would like to involve the press now, this sorry story needs telling, if anyone want's to get in touch please do, thank you all on this forum for your help.
 
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I wonder if letting Patreon know about this will get him shut down there?
 
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The Pepsi Seiko appears in a collection video from 6 months ago but is clearly stated to be owned by others. There is also a link to the watch mod website as an advert. I think that deal is more complex than the OP situation as it has a commercial B-B element and there was an agreement that a watch could be ‘kept’ for services rendered.

In terms of the OP Bogart watch I would make a clear communication that you no longer wish to support a video but that he can use any footage already obtained. You wish the watch returned to you with tracking data by ( list a date) or you will be reporting it to all relevant authorities and taking legal action for recovery. You hope he can understand that you did not anticipate waiting ?? Months to get your property back and that is why have lost confidence in the project and need the watch returned.

The guy is using his own identity and photo ID across multiple platforms / he travels and was at the London watch show and the Rock Band he was in still has some profile. He also owns / has access to a number of high value watches. He would seem to have very little to gain from appropriating a unique historic piece so hopefully this can be resolved amicably between you both without any third parties inflaming things (although this thread may have helped more than hindered). Time to take stock now and they hopefully come back with better news.


The deal with me was he will do a review of those watches. He will keep 1 out 4 watches and return the rest.

He didn't do a review of those watches, only showed as one of the many items he received from him viewers.

And he didn't send back any of the watches.

Nothing "complex" about the deal
 
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The deal with me was he will do a review of those watches. He will keep 1 out 4 watches and return the rest.

He didn't do a review of those watches, only showed as one of the many items he received from him viewers.

And he didn't send back any of the watches.

Nothing "complex" about the deal


Also you could see from his responses on Instagram that he keeps telling me that he plans to return them. 15 months later, I still don't have the watches and he stopped responding to me
 
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The deal with me was he will do a review of those watches. He will keep 1 out 4 watches and return the rest.

He didn't do a review of those watches, only showed as one of the many items he received from him viewers.

And he didn't send back any of the watches.

Nothing "complex" about the deal

I said it was a more involved (complex) situation than the Bogart watch in that it has a commercial element for a service and a goods exchange …and I stand by that statement. I do hope you get them back / the video clearly shows they were sent to him by you for review.
 
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Not sure who is interacting with him on Instagram comments but I took some screenshots so folks here can see the conversation:



EDIT: It appears this conversation has been deleted from IG.
 
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wow this guy is real a piece wasn't he at the London watch show why didn't he bring it with him then send special delivery in the UK no problem
 
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Just been reading through this thread, what an absolute cretin of a man. I'd only ever seen one vid with this guy ranting about the sharp edges on the Speedy and took an instant dislike to him but this whole episode has been horrendous.

Really hope that the OP and the other guy get your watches back, so sorry to read about such a horrible and stressful situation.

All I can say is best of luck.
 
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wow this guy is real a piece wasn't he at the London watch show why didn't he bring it with him then send special delivery in the UK no problem

Because he either has no intention of returning the watch or he simply does not care about other people’s property and can’t be bothered with acting like a decent human being.
 
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My name is Nico Leonard, I have a Youtube channel as well. I’m absolutely shocked to see this but I’m not surprised, to be honest. Oisin owes me a lot of money and I know several dealers he fυcked over as well!

In his replies, threatening with Lawyers and asking not to text him is identical to how he replied to me before he blocked me. But he brought it to the next level by threatening me.

I have his address and I am proceeding with legal actions, please get in touch and see if we can unite our strengths and get your watch back via my lawyer. My email address is [email protected].
 
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Just seen the thread title change, that's a good idea to help exposure. Wouldn't be surprised if there are yet others that are in the same boat that might turn up yet. No excuse for this whatsoever so seems much more than genuine delays sadly.