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gippo
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The most collectible modern Omega watch is...
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Madjam1966
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How scarce are these? I have the Bond LE SMP for Casino Royale and making this part 2 of a 2 part set would be very pleasing ☺
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w.finkenstaedt
·Damn, @Archer with the slam-dunk. Is he even going to come back to this forum? [emoji23]
These pieces are already very collectible; the 2255.80 is one of the most currently undervalued watches Omega has made in the last 20 years, and the LMLE is probably the most sought-after PO by collectors. They ALWAYS fetch a premium when they come up.
Unless the owner is a doofus and doesn't know what he has.
Unless the owner is a doofus and doesn't know what he has.
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Perseus
·Given their crazy price I'd say Silver Snoopy and second is probably the 2500 PO Liquid Metal.
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sarir97
·These pieces are already very collectible; the 2255.80 is one of the most currently undervalued watches Omega has made in the last 20 years, and the LMLE is probably the most sought-after PO by collectors. They ALWAYS fetch a premium when they come up.
Nice examples of 2255.80 are selling for 1700, the LMLE for 5000. I paid a little more than current asking price a few years back. So where's the premium?
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w.finkenstaedt
·Nice examples of 2255.80 are selling for 1700, the LMLE for 5000. I paid a little more than current asking price a few years back. So where's the premium?
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Lode_Runner
·I have a feeling this little guy from the late 1990s will be somewhat collectible one day
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sarir97
·I have a feeling this little guy from the late 1990s will be somewhat collectible one day
I love that little guy. Such a great daily wear and so undervalued. Mine says hello!
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pianomankd
·No love for the Speedy Tuesday LE?
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watchestelltime
·Hey,
If we talk about LE I'd go with the Apollo-Soyuz 35th (I'll own one someday) then the Gemini IV and then the silver snoopy.
If we rule out LE, I'd go with the DSOTM for the use of ceramic.
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watchestelltime
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Thanks
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Like I said, bear traps! Argue with Al on his home turf at your peril. Maybe best to get him onto 1970s English sports teams or maybe something niche and motoring related, (but avoid BMW). You may have a chance. Just. Otherwise you just look silly.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerLike I said, bear traps! Argue with Al on his home turf at your peril. Maybe best to get him onto 1970s English sports teams or maybe something niche and motoring related, (but avoid BMW). You may have a chance. Just. Otherwise you just look silly.
Hey I like bears! Hence I would never set bear traps...😀
In this case the bear seems to have left the building, which is a shame. He seems to have left the same day he asked me all those questions, and is not going to provide photos as I had asked.
Anyway, just to illustrate what I was hoping he could post photos of to verify, one of the points he made was that the caliber designation was not under the balance wheel, but just the Omega symbol and the work Omega. I think the extrapolation was made that this means a G version was never made, because he hasn't seen any movement that was marked G. This was further extrapolated to the B version being the final and most up to date version of the 8500, which isn't correct.
Many modern Omega movements have a code on them that is not in the typical location - like on this 1861:
This code has had several different configurations, and the most recent change to it on the 8500 was to list the version code of the movement as the first letter of that code. That's why I was asking him to show this area of the movements that he has on hand:
Some older codes will look like this XXXX/X - the newer code will just be 4 digits, so XXXX.
On the newer code, the first digit (letter) will be the version code for the movement, so if anyone has a Cal. 8500, and it has a "G" as the first of those 4 digits (the code without the forward slash) then please take a photo and post it.
I'm not trying to trap people, and certainly I don't know everything about these watches, because there's just too much to know when it comes to Omegas in general - the product range can only be described as vast. As I've said before, I'm here to assist where I can, but also learn - specifically about the "collector" side of these to serve my customers better. I will say I know far more about them than I do 1970's English sports teams though...so any time you want to stump me on those, be my guest.
Cheers, Al
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gippo
·Love that mesh bracelet, looks really nice, is it comfortable to wear? Can you let me know where I can buy one?
Thanks
The comfortable and light mesh bracelet, ideal for summer.I took it online on Omega Planet, a site that sold omega spare parts 😉
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Sachs-zte
·Well, lots of hostility for simply asking you to show what you claimed to have learned. There's no need to yell, to tell me use my brain, or otherwise be rude thanks...rather than see this as some sort of challenge if you are open minded you may actually learn something as a result of this discussion, but of course that is in your hands.
I'll address you last statement first about nominating something other than a Speedmaster - personally I have no dog in the fight of what the most collectible modern Omega is. I have little interest (from my own personal collector point of view) in the vast majority of Modern Omegas, so I don't really care what the end result of this discussion is with regards to that issue. However I do care about facts from a technical nature, which is why I asked you to provide some evidence. Customarily the one making the claim is the one to provide evidence of that claim. Saying "I have researched it and you will have to prove me wrong" is not evidence, even though it is a popular approach on watch forums.
Also please keep in mind I asked about specific claims, so assuming I disagree with everything you have written would be a poor assumption on your part.
The differences between the 8500 A and B versions are listed in the technical guide. Only 2 parts change between the A and B revision, and they are:
1 - Main plate changes from 7228500A1002007 to 7228500B1002007 - reason stated is "Engraved new execution" which refers to the movement revision level marked on the main plate. There is an Omega symbol and "Omega" under it - more on this topic later.
2 - Balance changes from 7228500A4005119 to 7228601A4005119 - noted at steel to Si14
If we now move to the 8500G revision, the following parts change:
1 - Main plate is now 7228508G1002007 - Omega symbol and word are now removed from the main plate.
2 - Balance - 7228508G4005119 - staff material changes to Nivagauss on the G version.
3 - Balance cock - changes from 7228500A1005818 to 7228508G1005818.
4 - Mainspring barrel 1 changes from 7228500A20010 to 7228508G20010.
5 - Mainspring barrel 2 changes from 7228500A20011 to 7228508G20011.
6 - Mainspring 1 changes from 7228500A20101 to 7228508G20101.
7 - Mainspring 2 changes from 7228500A2010019 to 7228508G2010019.
8 - Co-axial wheel (what you refer to as "the cog") changes from 7228500A30040 to 7228508G30040 - two lower levels of the co-axial wheel made of non-ferrous material on the G version.
9 - Pallet fork changes from 7228500A40010 to 7228508G40010 - fork and staff made of non-ferrous material on the G version.
10 - Upper shock assembly changes from 7228500A70530 to 7228508G70530.
11 - Lower shock assembly changes from 7228500A70531 to 7228508G70531.
12 - Upper shock spring changes from 7228500A78004 to 7228508G78004 - shock absorber spring is made of amorphous material on the G version.
13 - Lower shock spring changes from 7228500A78005 to 7228508G78005 - shock absorber spring is made of amorphous material on the G version.
Can you please show a close photos of the area near the balance on the watches you have in hand? I'm interested in the area to the left of the balance...you may be able to see an alpha-numeric code there.
Cheers, Al
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gbesq
·Lots of good suggestions here. I would add the 38.5 mm Skyfall Aqua Terra with the vertical blue “teak” dial, white gold dial furniture and the caliber 8500. This is the version that Craig wore in the film. Not easy to find this model and good examples are trading at or above their original retail.
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eldiano84
·Lots of good suggestions here. I would add the 38.5 mm Skyfall Aqua Terra with the vertical blue “teak” dial, white gold dial furniture and the caliber 8500. This is the version that Craig wore in the film. Not easy to find this model and good examples are trading at or above their original retail.
I was actually looking up values on old screen worn James Bond watches, specter’s planet ocean is high up, but you are right I couldn’t find this version, I found the newer references but not the once seen before! You got it made!
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·I was actually looking up values on old screen worn James Bond watches, specter’s planet ocean is high up, but you are right I couldn’t find this version, I found the newer references but not the once seen before! You got it made!
