The C-Cased Constellation Thread

kaplan · Feb 27, 2026

There is always a chance with C-Case's - but looking at your case too, which is heavily refinished with entirely new facets given to the watch, I'd lean towards an imagination dial as well.

What is the confirmation? / Where is the photos of the other model? / Are those indices painted as well?

There is one dial line where they could've done something like this, but your dial star isn't the right size and in the right place for that dial model

tdn-dk · Feb 27, 2026

Today the uncommon fumé dial version 😀

vibe · Mar 11, 2026

Ok, I’ve been through a bit more than half of of the posts in this thread. It seems the dial on this 168017 is quite uncommon! Glossy silver gilt. I’ll let you know when I have it in hand next week.

kaplan · Mar 11, 2026

vibe
Ok, I’ve been through a bit more than half of of the posts in this thread. It seems the dial on this 168017 is quite uncommon! Glossy silver gilt. I’ll let you know when I have it in hand next week.

That is %99+ a redial - but if it's not, it would be legendary. You can easily notice the white paint on indices that normally have a black coating. I can't 100% tell from the photo, but you can tell with a loupe when it's in your hands, just concentrate on indices

Boojumhunter · Fri. 2:40pm

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Apparently a special one... Have you ever come across another one?

Coincidentally today I had this returned after lending it to a colleague who was considering buying their first vintage Omega. Subsequent generation 168.0056 with a 1011 motor, seventies chic rather than classic cool, but the dial colour makes it work imho.

vibe · Mon. 12:59pm

kaplan
That is %99+ a redial - but if it's not, it would be legendary. You can easily notice the white paint on indices that normally have a black coating. I can't 100% tell from the photo, but you can tell with a loupe when it's in your hands, just concentrate on indices

OK, I have this baby in hand and it is a unicorn for sure. It is a gloss silver gilt dial in incredible condition. The text is printed in relief. The H+M hands and tops of the indices have gloss white paint. Ver cool with the white paint because it really increases the legibility. I paid probably double what a 168017 goes for, but still, a screaming deal at about $2500 and it's been serviced.

kaplan · Mon. 1:06pm

Nice looking watch for sure, but not the original dial painting. If you post a macro shot of that 12'o clock indice that would 100% tell for sure. You can tell from the photo that the left stripe's top section is thinner than the right stripe. If you were assured an original / non-redial watch I'd explore options

If you want I can refer you to an original gilt watch that has been on the market for almost 5 years now and it's around $1500

vibe · Mon. 1:53pm

kaplan
Nice looking watch for sure, but not the original dial painting. If you post a macro shot of that 12'o clock indice that would 100% tell for sure. You can tell from the photo that the left stripe's top section is thinner than the right stripe. If you were assured an original / non-redial watch I'd explore options

If you want I can refer you to an original gilt watch that has been on the market for almost 5 years now and it's around $1500

Please send, will research more. I have examined it quite closely ith a stereo microscope and the markers at 12 are the same width and along a facet. Would there really be the possibility of a redial done with the galvanic gilt process? I'll work on getting macros.

vibe · Mon. 10:41pm

@kaplan
this one has the exact same typeface and dial furniture but I believe the hands are incorrect.
https://lorologiese.com/product/omega-constellation-ref-168017-black-glossy-dial-1966-watch-cal-561/

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kaplan · Tues. 1:46am

Yes that one was the one I was going to suggest and it is 100% correct - observe the indices that have lume inside them - what you see on that original watch isn't paint, there are grooves in indices that lume goes

Meanwhile your watch has no prior example, and every indication that it's a repainted regular sunburst dial. Indices are the main giveaway.

That watch from lorologiese is one of the rarest of C-Case's, matte black dials are already rare, gilt ones are even rarer, I think for every 10 matte black C-Case there must be 1 gilt variant or less - but for some reason nobody else appreciates its rarity 😁 They also bumped up the price, otherwise I had almost convinced a friend to go for it

For a gilt dial - the text is also not printed, it's a layer below the black, there is like a reverse print situation going on - the text being the base material and the black being the paint

vibe · Tues. 6:03am

Yes I know what a gilt dial is and I know the text is not printed and I know that the watch I have is a gilt dial. I also know that my watch and the one from lorologiese have the exact same typography. Mine is clearly a non-lume version (coming from Japan), if the one on lorologiese has lume on the indices, you know what? Lume is paint. I am primarily a Rolex and iwc collector and understand how important typography is to determine the originality of a dial. Ii also know that galvanic gilt dials are not the method people use for doing a redial. Itotally disagree with your assessment of mine. You seem very hung up on the paint that is on the indices, but the paint is fine. These dials are so uncommon that you can’t possibly know everything.

kaplan · Tues. 6:25am

Not the same typography - yours is much thinner and from this side shot - they don't have the mirror effect that they should've

I've seen the recent redials from Japan and I also don't recall them being $2500 - you sound like someone who's trying to scam someone off forum and trying to force a validation of your redial watch. My theory is you also realised it's a redial and want to remedy your mistake this way

If you really want to validate your dial - you can just post 10-15 photos using 0.5x lens - or a macro lens, in different lighting conditions. Gilt dials have very low contrast, very easy to show the mirror effect - your video doesn't show it

With these said, I am all for it being original, it's just doesn't seem likely as the case is also clearly repolished etc. All signs of a decent restorers work

Peemacgee · Tues. 6:40am

I'm always interested in Omega 'oddities' and strange things do come out of Japan.

However, I don't think anyone should be accusing anyone else showing a new watch of trying to scam others (and I think it unnecessary and you should retract that @kaplan)

@vibe Kaplan is the nearest thing to a C case expert that we have on the forum.

I too am not sure that the script matches the cited authentic example shown above.
The original has very heavily serifed text and from your pics, the Ms in the first two lines don't appear to match on your watch.

It would be useful to post some clear straight on images of your watch with hands clear of the text.

kaplan · Tues. 6:44am

Yeah that might've been jumping to unnecessary conclusions but it seemed more logical than buying a redial at $2500

Peemacgee · Tues. 6:52am

kaplan
Yeah that might've been jumping to unnecessary conclusions but it seemed more logical than buying a redial at $2500

The heart wants what the heart wants and if you don't know, you don't know (@vibe did say he was a Rolex/IWC guy and who knows, $2500 might be pocket lint to him)

Mattsky · Tues. 7:48am

SOG53 · Tues. 9:23am

Here is a similar black gilt dial on a 168.010 with similar dial furniture to compare text- note serifs are quite prominent

It has some typical lacquer degradation common to these dials

While it is not C case the black gilt dial features should be similar it seems

vibe · Tues. 9:46am

My dail has heavy serifs as well, as I said that typography is an exact match. Also, (again) it’s galvanic gilt and I highly doubt anybody is re-dialing with that method.. I will see if I can get some macros this week. How I long for a royal decree from the king of the C Case ha ha.

Peemacgee · Tues. 9:57am

My primary concern is the M in 'chronometer' appears to have a narrower stance and less pronounced shoulders than the M in 'automatic'.
However, it may simply be an artifact of the photo - better images would help.
Looking forward to seeing them.

liquidsongbird · Tues. 12:07pm

I have no skin in this game. My curiousity asks - how much was the C-Case that Vibe has posted? I've watched many come up here and elsewhere and none (originals) have been of this condition, or even close. If the one posted by Kaplan is for sale at $2k+ USD... this one certainly would be a LOT more, no? Unless it was found in a yard sale or something?

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