Speedmaster Repair Problems

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Hi all,

My Omega ownership experience has not been ideal, and I would greatly appreciate some input. I purchased my speedy (311.30.42.30.01.005) this past May 2019 from an Omega location. After wearing the watch for a few days I noted the crystal was slightly warped (to the point of being slightly concave in the center) and after posting about it here decided to bring it in to an Omega location in NYC. The watch was sent back to me in Denver, where I now live (no Omega locations here), crystal looked great but there was a fiber underneath it in the bottom-most edge. No big deal.

I wore the watch for a couple months, but in the fall the watch stopped a couple times randomly while there was definitely still energy stored in the spring. I called Omega and sent it back in, mailing it to the Swatch repair facility in Culver City, CA, citing the fiber under the crystal and the random stoppages. Watch was returned to me just before Christmas. Fiber was still under the dial. Annoying but I'd rather live with it than send it back in and part with it for another month. No specifics of the repair performed were revealed to me via the Swatch Group Customer Information System Website or the documentation returned with the watch. Included with the watch was a bag with parts in it, which I assume were replaced (see attached image). This morning, the watch was stopped again when I woke up.

Any suggestions for how to handle this? I don't remember a case when the watch stopped while the chronograph was not running, and I can always get the watch started again by pressing the start/stop button. I'm hesitant to just send it back to them again given I'm currently in the same situation I was in before I sent it last time. I'm also attached to this particular watch because of the sentimental value it's already gained. Any advice would be appreciated!
 
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I have no advice other than if it's under warranty, send it back to Omega. You can use your own watchmaker, but than you will need to pay for the work and you will likely use the Omega warranty.

Sorry you are in this predicament.
 
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Send it back, except this time, escalate to Switzerland. They have little patience for the antics of their US representatives.

Be polite.

Tom
 
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How often do you wind the watch, and do you wind it fully watch time (to the point where the crown will not turn any longer)?
 
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How often do you wind the watch, and do you wind it fully watch time (to the point where the crown will not turn any longer)?

Hi Archer, it's an honor! I wind the watch until it will not turn any longer each morning at the same time.
 
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Hi Archer, it's an honor! I wind the watch until it will not turn any longer each morning at the same time.

If you fully wind it, set the time, lay it dial up and let it run down, how long does it run for?
 
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Send it back, except this time, escalate to Switzerland. They have little patience for the antics of their US representatives.

Be polite.

Tom

Hi Tom, thanks for the input. Should I do that by reaching out to Omega's US support number as I have before, or is there a number I should find for Switzerland?
 
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If you fully wind it, set the time, lay it dial up and let it run down, how long does it run for?

I haven't tried that, but I can start that process tonight.
 
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I haven't tried that, but I can start that process tonight.

If it does stop, say before reaching 48 hours, take out your phone and post a photo showing the positions of the hands. Looking for hand interference, in particular with the central hour hand being on top of one of the 3 sub-dial hands.
 
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If it does stop, say before reaching 48 hours, take out your phone and post a photo showing the positions of the hands. Looking for hand interference, in particular with the central hour hand being on top of one of the 3 sub-dial hands.

Should I run the chronograph as well? And is there a time I should set it to to start?
 
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Should I run the chronograph as well? And is there a time I should set it to to start?

Replicate whatever conditions are present when the watch randomly stops. If you were running the chronograph at that time, run it. If you were not, then don't.
 
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As a quick word of advice, make sure your watch is set to the correct time when starting the test and photograph the hands at the time you start. (Don’t worry if off by a few seconds or a minute or two - you’re just looking to get a good record of approximately when the watch starts at full wind, and when it stops. Easy to remember today, but you want to get the detail on record when needing to refer back to this a few weeks from now).
 
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Hi Tom, thanks for the input. Should I do that by reaching out to Omega's US support number as I have before, or is there a number I should find for Switzerland?

Do what Archer has requested first. Knowledge is power.

Tom
 
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Do what everyone else said first.

But personally at this point, I would be (kindly) asking they just give me a new watch instead.... Kinda ridiculous.
 
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Do what everyone else said first.

But personally at this point, I would be (kindly) asking they just give me a new watch instead.... Kinda ridiculous.
He's not going to get a new watch from Omega from a purchase made 8 months ago.
 
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He's not going to get a new watch from Omega from a purchase made 8 months ago.

I've never tried it myself (luckily never had to ...) but considering its been back to Omega for service multiple times now under warranty, there is a significant paper trail showing the watch is defective in some way. 2 services done now, $750 per service. If that keeps going on, Omega would have saved money just giving him a new watch and junking the defective one.
 
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Replicate whatever conditions are present when the watch randomly stops. If you were running the chronograph at that time, run it. If you were not, then don't.

Watch stopped after almost exactly 34 hours (started with hands at noon). Doesn't look like an interference is possible given the current orientation of all the hands. Additional photo added to show aforementioned fiber. Leaving it stopped in case you have any additional tests you'd like me to run.

 
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Now just switch the chronograph off, and see how much longer it runs...
 
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I've never tried it myself (luckily never had to ...) but considering its been back to Omega for service multiple times now under warranty, there is a significant paper trail showing the watch is defective in some way. 2 services done now, $750 per service. If that keeps going on, Omega would have saved money just giving him a new watch and junking the defective one.
Hold on a second, if the watch is under warranty, he don't have to pay $750 to get things fixed, correct?
 
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Hold on a second, if the watch is under warranty, he don't have to pay $750 to get things fixed, correct?
Correct. I think PandaSPUR was using retail price of what the warranty would cost a customer if not in warranty as an example to illustrate. Additionally, there probably is some real cost incurred by Omega, maybe 50%, for warranty services that “costs” the company. Since work is being done, parts are being used, while revenue is not coming in for the task.

For the owner, however, given that there is no OB in his area, he still has to pay the cost of shipping plus insurance, which probably tally up to about $60 if USPS Registered Mail (which offers insurance and is indented for high value shipments), and maybe $100 if FedEx with ParcelPro (or JM or comparable) insurance. Not to mention loss of use of the watch.

sure, stuff happens and that’s what warranty is for. The issue here is when you start to get comeback after comeback, the tens of dollars turn into hundreds for postage (or hours of making repeat trips to the OB), and weeks without watch become months.

So I would think that 8 months or a year of an ongoing issue would actually be the right range for a new watch: the owner has given Omega ample time and multiple tries to repair the watch, and I think that a new watch (or even offering a refund if desired, customer’s choice) would be a great way for Omega to stand behind their products, nice customer service gesture, and an amicable outcome for both sides.