Question about omega logo on hesalite

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Why would you buy a watch you don't want?

Bought my first Rolex's as anniversary gifts for myself and my wife a pair of DJ's, beautiful watches, now I am looking for my next Rolex, not sure what I fancy but a Blue Submariner might be nice, maybe a Milgauss, no worries plenty of choice, plenty of watches, after all they are sat in safes in the AD's waiting for those that have 'privilege'.

I so wish that were true.
May not be true for all AD but it happens whether you believe it or not. Milgauss is a great choice.
 
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Wow... This thread has derailed... A bit. Nice to see watch enthusiasts discuss.
 
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This isn’t exactly a secret and nobody is condemning the practice. What’s the big deal?
Actually, I do condemn it as I don’t like dealing with dishonest people/companies.

I would recommend that people don’t support/condone this type of behavior. If we don’t nip this in the bud it will permeate every watch company. We can already see Omega angling this way with the 321.
 
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Actually, I do condemn it as I don’t like dealing with dishonest people/companies.

I would recommend that people don’t support/condone this type of behavior. If we don’t nip this in the bud it will permeate every watch company. We can already see Omega angling this way with the 321.
Point taken. For myself, I simply don’t shop Rolex.
 
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So this is my 2 cents about the Rolex sales tactics?

Unless an insider at Rolex spills the beans about production output and whistle blowers come forth from several AD's regarding holding on to popular models until it benefits them all talk is speculation.
 
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Imo, they should. It would show their attention to detail is important. I mean, Rolex has the crown etched into the glass at the 6 o'clock position.

I agree, not because Rolex does it, but because they should all do it. It takes, what, an extra two seconds to spin the crystal to the correct orientation?
 
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Not saying because Rolex does it... Like you said. But because omega prides itself on excellence and when you buy an Omega you buy history, pedigree, excellence and sharp attention to detail in watch making.
 
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An interesting read, but it is only one side of the picture.

Over that same time period, the number of people that have bought into the hype of owning a Rolex has grown massively, social media being the biggest culprit for pushing Rolex, so now there are more people than ever wanting that elusive watch. Demand continues to outstrip supply.

You can interpret data however you want, you can argue the data whichever way you want, but the fact remains that considerably more people want watches than there are watches.

Many will say it's a conspiracy by Rolex, so what if it is, if you were in Rolex's position what would you do?
 
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Many will say it's a conspiracy by Rolex, so what if it is, if you were in Rolex's position what would you do?
Gee, I don’t know. Maybe not engage in deliberately engineered profiteering?
 
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Sorry, Martin_J_N, but TechFounder has both the facts and economic theory on his side. What puzzles me is why you seemingly won’t admit that Rolex creates artificial scarcity for its products by limiting supply. This isn’t exactly a secret and nobody is condemning the practice. What’s the big deal?

No big deal, he has his view I have mine, data can be interpreted in many ways and used in many ways.

My issue is that I struggle to comprehend why a Company would deliberately withhold product to create a secondary market that gives huge profits to 3rd parties instead of themselves. If you were Rolex and you increased production you could wipe out the big profits for grey dealers very quickly, stop all this 'flippin' nonsense and have more profit yourself couldn't you? And it is this fact that convinces me that it is not a deliberate policy.

Maybe as I find out more, learn more and understand more my views and opinions may change, who knows if it will but for now it is what it is.
 
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Wow... This thread has derailed... A bit. Nice to see watch enthusiasts discuss.

Nothing wrong a good bit of discussion, just as long as it is kept friendly and polite, oh and threads change and deviate massively from where they started. Never intentionally, it just happens.

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No big deal, he has his view I have mine, data can be interpreted in many ways and used in many ways.

My issue is that I struggle to comprehend why a Company would deliberately withhold product to create a secondary market that gives huge profits to 3rd parties instead of themselves. If you were Rolex and you increased production you could wipe out the big profits for grey dealers very quickly, stop all this 'flippin' nonsense and have more profit yourself couldn't you? And it is this fact that convinces me that it is not a deliberate policy.

Maybe as I find out more, learn more and understand more my views and opinions may change, who knows if it will but for now it is what it is.
You make a fair point. I’ll have to give that some thought.
 
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Is it possible to re-rail a de-railed thread? Let’s see.


Replacement (new) crystal. Installed at the OB in Hamburg by their resident watchmaker. “I’ll do my best to get it straight, but there are no guarantees as the crystal can turn slightly as they pop into place”. Looks OK to me, thanks Volker!


Was out of alignment, original crystal re-installed by Omega in Biel because I specifically asked them to give it their best shot; they duly obliged. Cheers!


Replacement new crystal installed by Omega in Biel, also straight because I asked if they could do their best to get it straight. Thanks again!


Not straight, because no one asked for it to be straight.....yet.

If it bothers you, search for one that’s straight or have it straightened (to the best of the watchmakers ability/willingness) at the next service.

If it doesn’t bother you, congratulations! One less piece of nonsense to distract you from real issues of importance.
 
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My issue is that I struggle to comprehend why a Company would deliberately withhold product to create a secondary market that gives huge profits to 3rd parties instead of themselves. If you were Rolex and you increased production you could wipe out the big profits for grey dealers very quickly, stop all this 'flippin' nonsense and have more profit yourself couldn't you? And it is this fact that convinces me that it is not a deliberate policy.
The reason is that secondary markets support primary markets. Rolex didn't want secondary markets discounting their watches which reduces demand in the primary markets. Remember, this started back in 2015 when there were plenty of supply, with exception of Daytonas which were always in limited supply.
 
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I’ll join the effort to revive the thread. Just looked at my modern Soeedy Pro and my vintage Constellation. Neither logo is aligned with the 6. The Constellation was made in 1962, so apparently the misalignment issue hasn’t troubled Omega for quite some time. 😀
 
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All of you have totally missed the boat.

Omega is owned by Swatch, which is a public company. They have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to be as profitable as possible in the short-term, so that their shareholders get capital gains and dividends and cause the stock price to rise.

That means mass marketing, revenue maximization and profits for Omega.

Rolex is not a public company. They are owned by a charitable trust. Their fiduciary responsibility is to the charities they serve, their employees and executives. No one else. Therefore, they do not need to squeeze every dollar of profit from each sale. They can also afford to have marketing campaigns that might limit short-term profits for long-term market share.

Why does Rolex do this? Because they can.
gatorcpa
 
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All of you have totally missed the boat.

Omega is owned by Swatch, which is a public company. They have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to be as profitable as possible in the short-term, so that their shareholders get capital gains and dividends and cause the stock price to rise.

That means mass marketing, revenue maximization and profits for Omega.

Rolex is not a public company. They are owned by a charitable trust. Their fiduciary responsibility is to the charities they serve, their employees and executives. No one else. Therefore, they do not need to squeeze every dollar of profit from each sale. They can also afford to have marketing campaigns that might limit short-term profits for long-term market share.

Why does Rolex do this? Because they can.
gatorcpa

I can subscribe to the theory but I am still unconvinced that any business, charitable or otherwise would deliberately ignore profit, maybe its something that I need to get my head round and look into further.