Omega’s Extract Of The Archives - How It Works

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abrod520

·Jul 19, 2016

MikiJ

I'm about to request one for my recently acquired 145.022-68. Can I request for it to include exactly what bracelet it was delivered?
There seems to be various bracelets that could have possibly come from Bienne with this model.
It would be nice to know if mine is original to my particular later serial number, 277xxxxx
I'm well aware that these may have come with various different bracelets, all of which were correct.

Sometimes, if the watch was paired with a bracelet on delivery from the factory to the retailer, a note would have been made on the production sheet about it and it will appear in the Extract. Most Speedmasters seem to have been paired with bracelets at the retailer though, upon delivery to the customer, so this information wouldn't be available in an Extract. So - best of luck to you, but don't be disappointed if you don't receive that information!

 

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MikiJ

·Jul 19, 2016

That's probably the best explanation to date as to why these came with so many different model numbers.
Thank you. I'll let everyone know what, if anything, I learn about my watch.

 

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Foo2rama

·Jul 19, 2016·Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...

abrod520

All -74s had the small-S C2 dial, and earlier -76s did as well. There aren't any tall & open S -74s from the factory

Yup, just checking as I was not aware that -74 went up to 39m also. I was curious to see if the watch was all original.

 

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larryganz

·Jul 19, 2016

Foo2rama

Thanks more proof that mine was sold in 76.
I assume you have the small S dial then. The S does not drop as far as the tail on the p.

Yes

 

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MikiJ

·Jul 22, 2016

That sucks 🙁 I'm getting ready to request an Extract for my '68 Serial #277xxxxx. Wish me luck.

 

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adrienbelanger

·Jul 22, 2016

For those of you who are thinking about ordering an extract of the archives and would like to see what they look like, here is a short video I made about my experience:

https://www.facebook.com/shoreditchmeantime/videos/467349403475363/?pnref=story

You can boost the quality to HD by clicking on "settings". Enjoy!

 

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rcs914

·Jul 22, 2016

I haven't ordered one for my -76 model, but based on two other extracts I've seen I can be fairly sure it was produced around late June to mid July of 1977. Obviously this isn't certain, but I'm happy with having what I can be fairly confident is a birth year Speedy. One extract I saw with a SN about 150 before mine was made in early June, and another I saw with a SN 1500 after mine was made in early September. I might someday get one, but I would rather have a deployant clasp.

 

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SpeedyPhill

·Dec 31, 2016

I believe in practice the Extract of the Archive "Production date" refers to the date/year the watch left Omega SA towards a certain country.
So there's maximum 1 year difference in actual production year and the year it left the factory. Sometimes obvious if the production date inside the caseback is X and the production date on the Extract is X+1... easily occurs when a watch was produced in the last couple months of a year.

 

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Jaacck

·Dec 31, 2016

crazy they haven't digitalised there archives.

 

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SpeedyPhill

·Dec 31, 2016

Carefully reading this topic my answer lays in the difference between actual production period and precise assembly date... the latter is used for the Extract of the Archives.

 

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Foo2rama

·Dec 31, 2016·Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...

Jaacck

crazy they haven't digitalised there archives.

They are on microfilm

 

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kkt

·Jan 1, 2017

It's not really surprising to me that they haven't digitised the microfilm. Digitising well can't be completely automated, exposure often needs manual adjustment, especially when the originals are handwritten with problematic paper. Any given extract will probably only be wanted once, if even that. They wouldn't be allowing unmediated access over the web in any case, they'll want to keep collecting their $150 for an expert in the archives to read it, print it up nicely, and have the CEO sign it.

 

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kov

·Jan 1, 2017

kkt

they'll want to keep collecting their $150 for an expert in the archives to read it, print it up nicely, and have the CEO sign it.

What you get is worth that money imho, exactly because of what they actually do for each request. 👍

 

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gatorcpa

·Jan 1, 2017·ΩF InvestiGator

kov

What you get is worth that money imho, exactly because of what they actually do for each request. 👍

Not when you consider that Longines does the same thing via email for free.

I could care less about the fancy certificate.
gatorcpa

 

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kov

·Jan 1, 2017

And how much will it cost for the same thing at AP? 😗

 

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gatorcpa

·Jan 1, 2017·ΩF InvestiGator

More. But these certificates do nothing for provenance.

I can find dating charts for most major brands online. They are generally accurate to within 1-2 years with some exceptions.

For example, Hamilton used to hold completed movements in inventory 10-20 years after assembly sometimes.

It's all about marketing and perceived "exclusivity".
gatorcpa

 

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Just Livin

·Jan 1, 2017

I am cool with the process and paying for the certificate. IMHO I appreciate receiving some history on the location of where the watch was originally sent to. And any additional info supplied.

I actually don't mind paying for this either. Free generally devalues a proposition.

I maybe in a minority. But in general I look forward to receiving a copy of the certificate.

My only frustration at times is the lack of consistency. Well documented on the forum.
But for the most part I appreciate the process exists.

 

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Rotary7

·Dec 20, 2018

For the record: Dec 2018, same exact letter from Omega CS with the same attachment and price (i.e. $150). Mine ordered.

 

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fskywalker

·Dec 20, 2018

Rotary7

For the record: Dec 2018, same exact letter from Omega CS with the same attachment and price (i.e. $150). Mine ordered.

Ordered it for my 3592.50 last week, same documents as well 😀

Edited: Dec 23, 2018

 

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asrnj77

·Dec 22, 2018

Rotary7

For the record: Dec 2018, same exact letter from Omega CS with the same attachment and price (i.e. $150). Mine ordered.

I ordered mine today as well but I think Omega did the conversion for Swiss Francs to USD years ago. The cost for everybody outside the US is 120 francs which is currently $120.69 in USD.