I know no one is asking this but personally I would much prefer a meteorite Soyuz LE over an Italian made Apollo-Soyuz😝😁
Wow, I thought in London / Europe you would have a more enlightened crowd at your events.
I'm getting the impression that you're going to be oppositional to any suggestion or explanation about anything.
I understand that you're passionate but it's time to let it go and pick your battles.
I'm sorry but it's the exact opposite!
I am open to all the reasoning, insights and / or suspicions concerning the Pre-Apollo-Soyuz watches.
mine is not a battle is simply a desire to know the truth. I believe and hope that having shared many documents, declarations or e-mails over the years with many people has been a pleasure for both of us and it is also for this reason that I confirm again that I accept any common sense suggestions.
sorry but for your suggestion, to give up, I do not know what to do ...
The boutique events I've been to, predominantly seem to be filled with the VIP customers who have the deepest pockets (not sure how I got on the list...), and then a much smaller group of nerds.
That whole "luxury watch brand" things tends to attract more people who are interested in Luxury, than Watches.
No your open to anyone that agrees with you. You still have failed to answer the question that has been repeatedly asked of you.
If there are 100 watches not built by Omega, how do you verify it? That’s the whole problem which you fail to address.
Because there is no evidence that there are 100 watchs built by DeMarchi.
Let's be clear, do you think it is possible that any watchmaker could build 100 Apollo-Soyuz watches from scratch?
we find the 100 watches "not built by Omega" and then I'm at you disposal to talk about it.
if you allow me, before talking about something that does not exist, I would like to deepen the discussion of the 40 watches built by Omega, marketed by Demarchi and bought in 1975 by the Italians
Same with Hodinkee events, almost any event hosted by a dealer, etc. The amount of watch nerd conversation is shockingly slim, whereas there are always very lively conversations about the markets and Bitcoin. And then there are the micro-brand "startups" helmed by finance bros
I'm coming to find that outside of small-scale forum GTGs, I'd rather keep to myself in the watch world
So now your saying your watch was not one of those 100 you started this thread about????
Now your saying your watch was one of 40 pre production watches that appear to predate that Apollo logo sold before the mission that also cannot be confirmed and have later serial numbers?
That logo was not used until very close to the mission start and was never the official logo. It was a variant created very near the launch date for lapel pins and patches only existed for it very close to the launch date.
The ASTP emblem was designed in mid 73 by a Russian and that is clearly documented in multiple places. This is what is on the watch but is not the mission patch.
The ASTP project emblem, created by Russian artist Galina Balashova, was artfully designed to eliminate any bias by having APOLLO and СОЮЗ (SOYUZ) appear on opposite sides of the patch, which had no inherent up/down or left/right orientation. It was designed in 1973, and was widely used throughout the project both in America and the Soviet Union.
sorry but before you wrote that the logo was shown just before the launch of 1975 and now write that he was born in 1973?
therefore in January 1975 the A-S logo already existed.
do we agree on this point?
Again, it's just a demo sample for boutique events where 99,9% of the people don't even know the difference between tritium and luminova (and that is normal). Where's the problem here?
Thank you for publishing these photos.
Is this your A-S?
