for those interested ... a few days ago this announcement appeared

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Dial, casebacks, bracelet, finals it's OK

last month I noticed on ebay the same box with accessories ...

in 10 years of research I had never seen an Apollo Soyuz with such a low serial ...

this auction, however, will be useful to understand if the market accepts or refuses this anomalous clock and above all it is the first Pre-Apollo-Soyuz that is offered to the public in total naturalness

let's see how it will end

 

Here we go again...

 

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you can't please everyone...
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30m serial...so it's even outside the outside range.

With the new parts and no extract it's already past what i'd pay...currently 25 bids to £7.5k

 

A classic example of a movement, dial, bracelet, end links and case not matching age of each other.

 

As for the Apollo-Soyuz watches out of reach, in the past everything has always been said ... no need to remember this ...
I simply say that at some point it was almost a shame to have an AS out range, even if I had bought it in person at an OMEGA dealer and now there is someone who is willing to spend 7/8k to buy it ... weird , it's not true?
and I would like to add that the most interesting thing is not to judge the buyer or seller, but to understand the value of an OMEGA watch (in fact) not recognized by the parent company!

who will win?
the market, created by the collectors or the hidden truths of OMEGA

 

I can recall an italian deal selling a Soyuz dial alone for 16k€ on C24. Was about 6 months ago.

This one is still below the price of that dial

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't "in the range" Soyuz's selling for over 40k€? If it is the case, then let's wait & see the final price.
And by the way, I'm not sure an auction like this will prove anything, as the prices can very easily be "influenced" (shill bidding, etc.)

 

a·nom·a·lous
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adjective

1. deviating from what is standard, normal, or expected.
   "an anomalous situation"
   synonyms: abnormal, atypical, irregular, aberrant, exceptional, freak, freakish, odd, bizarre, peculiar, unusual, out of the ordinary
   
   I wasn't sure that anomalous was a real word so I looked it up
   
   In all seriousness, it's quickly moved up to 10,100 GBP with 6 days to go. This one's going to be interesting!

 

quite right!
but we are already out of budget ...

 

You are completely right; almost always in auctions the prices are influenced by external factors but in this specific case the market is proving to go further ... it does not want to know the reason of the irregularities of this Apollo Soyuz and does not even want to know why OMEGA can not explain the existence of these N A-S out of range watches ... simply the market wants this watch ... nothing more

 

So when the extract comes back delivered to somewhere other then Italy and not an AS. Are you going to claim it’s a special one off for another market?

 

Yes but first, let's see how much it goes for. If a dial alone sold for 16k€ then the whole watch should go for 20k€ at least. So since it's sitting at 10£ now, it doesn't tell us much.
Plus, the buyer could be an inexperienced fellow that could regret his acquisition dearly...

 

"What the does this mean?" Translation "I sing the body electric".

 

Don’t confuse asking price with an actual sales price.

 

for this specific watch I agree with you ... it is likely that this is the result of a reconstruction ... but with original spare Omega parts ... but in this specific case we are not betting on the authenticity or otherwise of this clock because I would say that anyway this AS watch is always better than the one on display at the Omega museum ...


let's pause for a moment to look and reflect on what will trigger the outcome of this auction ...
in my opinion many things, among the most important:
my research and discussions with OMEGA are no longer useful and in most cases it is the market that decides the value and in this case tramples the manufacturer's statements ...

 

Yeah but when you don't have a way to find the sales price out, you can assume that sales price and list price weren't so far off (especially such a rare item)