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New member here from the UK & so glad I found this site, which looks to be the right place for some help please!

My father-in-law has come across what we think is a Omega Speedmaster watch, which has been in long term storage. He bought it over yesterday and I took a few photos which I hope will give a better idea. The watch was working fine, but has has scratches on the glass, and the bracelet is a ladies Rolex (it was worn by mother mother-in-law occasionally). Box / paperwork sadly long gone.
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Any help would be much appreciated. I believe he is looking to sell it, so any advice on how we might go about getting a valuation / best place to sell it would be invaluable also.

Many thanks in advance, Mark
 
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Looks like a late 2998 or more likely 105.002-62 with stick hands which may or may not have been changed at service. The 105 did come with those originally so that is my best guess at the model, the 2998 used polished hands so if it is earlier, it has had parts changed. On a Rolex bracelet I see, also valuable maybe but to a different crowd.

Looks like a very nice example with considerable value, think 5 figures GBP
 
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The 6635 expandable rivet bracelet is for a men’s Rolex with 19mm lug spacing. The clasps were just quite narrow on those bracelets. It has some value and would be best sold separately.
 
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Wow! Thank you both already for your replies.

I guess we would need to take the watch to a specialist to perhaps get it looked at / maybe have the movement checked and pictured? Is this for a jewellers in Salisbury close to where we live, or are there any other recommendations in this area of the UK?

Many thanks again, Mark
 
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Hi Mark,
This is a very nice watch, try to avoid running it too much more, you risk damaging the movement as it has probably been a very long time since it was last serviced.
You can check out this site www.speedmaster101.com to carry out more research into the model.
And it’s probably best to proceed slowly with any sale, many collectors appreciate these barn find condition watches, so definitely do not try to clean it up with any new replacement parts.
Good luck
 
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Wow! Thank you both already for your replies.

I guess we would need to take the watch to a specialist to perhaps get it looked at / maybe have the movement checked and pictured? Is this for a jewellers in Salisbury close to where we live, or are there any other recommendations in this area of the UK?

Many thanks again, Mark
Local jeweller may be OK to open it up to have a look but if you are thinking of getting it serviced it will need attention from someone with solid experience in vintage watches.
 
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Many thanks Shaun, understood.

So it looks like the model from the posts already suggest it might be a 105.002, or otherwise, but I guess that might only be confirmed by a little further investigation by a reputable watch specialist.
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Perhaps we should flag this for uber collector and all round Speedmaster expert @Spacefruit
 
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"..Looks like a late 2998 or more likely 105.002-62 with stick hands which may or may not have been changed at service. The 105 did come with those originally so that is my best guess at the model, the 2998 used polished hands so if it is earlier, it has had parts changed. On a Rolex bracelet I see, also valuable maybe but to a different crowd.

Looks like a very nice example with considerable value, think 5 figures GBP.."

Is that a realistic expectation on what it might be worth? I think the father-in-law has mentioned it to the local auction house (who are selling some war-time medals & other bits shortly) who suggested it might fetch £2- £4K?
 
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I certainly wouldn’t be in any rush to sell this. A spectacular find.
 
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I certainly wouldn’t be in any rush to sell this. A spectacular find.

The father-in-law is in his mid 80s and starting to de-clutter I think were his words, no doubt with the grandchildren very much in mind.

I will hopefully hear from the watchmaker in Salisbury shortly so we can get a time for them to assess exactly what it might be.
Many thanks to everyone who has taken the time to reply & help with this.

best, Mark
 
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"..Looks like a late 2998 or more likely 105.002-62 with stick hands which may or may not have been changed at service. The 105 did come with those originally so that is my best guess at the model, the 2998 used polished hands so if it is earlier, it has had parts changed. On a Rolex bracelet I see, also valuable maybe but to a different crowd.

Looks like a very nice example with considerable value, think 5 figures GBP.."

Is that a realistic expectation on what it might be worth? I think the father-in-law has mentioned it to the local auction house (who are selling some war-time medals & other bits shortly) who suggested it might fetch £2- £4K?
Yes it is realistic depending on the level of originality. If you are anywhere near Brum, I would be happy to take the back off for you safely.
 
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padders padders
Yes it is realistic depending on the level of originality. If you are anywhere near Brum, I would be happy to take the back off for you safely.
Thats an incredibly kind offer padders, thank you! However we are 2 hours south and that would be a long way to travel to find that it has a Timex movement installed in place?!. (I'm certain that the watch buttons started and re-set the large hand when tried yesterday) I'm sure we can get an appointment with the local Salisbury jeweller who appear to have some expertise in vintage Omega etc.

My father-in law inherited a few heirlooms - including this one - from a family member. Who had been a spitfire pilot in WW2. He was shot down and then sent to POW camp, and subsequently escaped twice. The Breitling watch which survived that adventure which he was also left is now in the their museum. (They replaced it with a brand new model, still sat in the cupboard).

This watch took my Mother-in Laws eye and somehow the present strap was fitted later. It clearly is a ladies fit. (She passed 7 years ago)

Anyways, will update when I have something more definitive on condition / movement.

Many thanks again, Mark
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Thats an incredibly kind offer padders, thank you! However we are 2 hours south and that would be a long way to travel to find that it has a Timex movement installed in place?!. (I'm certain that the watch buttons started and re-set the large hand when tried yesterday) I'm sure we can get an appointment with the local Salisbury jeweller who appear to have some expertise in vintage Omega etc.

My father-in law inherited a few heirlooms - including this one - from a family member. Who had been a spitfire pilot in WW2. He was shot down and then sent to POW camp, and subsequently escaped twice. The Breitling watch which survived that adventure which he was also left is now in the their museum. (They replaced it with a brand new model, still sat in the cupboard).

This watch took my Mother-in Laws eye and somehow the present strap was fitted later. It clearly is a ladies fit. (She passed 7 years ago)

Anyways, will update when I have something more definitive on condition / movement.

Many thanks again, Mark

some addresses here:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/looking-for-a-uk-watchmaker.133557/

personally I send them to Simon Freese, top Omega guy
 
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Many thanks, I think what we need to ascertain at this point is condition & originality (other than the bracelet).

Not sure whether Simon Freese offers that kind of service?

Will update shortly.

Many thanks. Mark
 
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Many thanks, I think what we need to ascertain at this point is condition & originality (other than the bracelet).

Not sure whether Simon Freese offers that kind of service?

Will update shortly.

Many thanks. Mark

Here on OF is actually the best place to get that information since some really knowledgeable experts will see your watch. Just post lots of good photos, inside and out.
 
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Here on OF is actually the best place to get that information since some really knowledgeable experts will see your watch. Just post lots of good photos, inside and out.

Many thanks Dan. The watch only came out of the locker 72 hours ago, after a few years, so will endeavour to update shortly.
 
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This is a fascinating thread so far.

@Markg68, welcome!! But also, let me be the first to say explicitly: I am envious of your good fortune.

Please do keep us posted regarding further developments on this piece. Would love to see it post-service with a proper wrist-shot!

Good health!
 
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