Need a recommendation for a quality book on watch repair

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One of the problems with watchmaking books is that many of them are quite old, and the practices/techniques shown are not always up to date with modern standards and expectations. Everything from cleaning with cyanide (de Carle) to static posing every balance after a staff (Freid) are things that aren't consistent with modern watch servicing and repairing. Some may damage you, and some may damage the watch and it's accuracy.

I've tried to compile some basic information for people like you, who are just starting out and doing this as a hobby. I've illustrated current techniques so that if you follow these you would be using the most up to date information. I make no guarantees, but have a look and if you have any questions, let me know. There are quite a few watchmakers here, so one of us will come up with an answer I'm sure.


Basic watchmaking tips - cleaning | Omega Forums

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Basic watchmaking tips - Oiling Part 3 (the wheel train) | Omega Forums

Basic watchmaking tips - Oiling part 4 (the escapement) | Omega Forums

Basic watchmaking tips - replacing a balance staff | Omega Forums

Basic Watchmaking tips - checking and adjusting end shake | Omega Forums

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Basic Watchmaking Tips - stems and screwdrivers | Omega Forums

Cheers, Al
Geez Al. You have access to arrows and cyanide…

We’re friends… right?
 
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I have two of these. Broke some stuff on the first one so now I have a working and a donor.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3546299276...Cv8baL0SLq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Also, check out watchrepairtalk.com for a dedicated forum.

You made me go down a rabbit hole. I still say get a complete with case working watch to start. I have trays of watch movements. A naked movement may be 30 bucks, one with a case seems to be 150. So the case with crystal back bezels strap (possibly dial and hands) will set things back another 120.

I sometimes find that watches are cheaper by the dozen. Look for the bulk lots. Sometimes others see the cherry to pick. Other times not. Brands like Benrus, Helvetia, Gruen can have decent movements in them. Helbros or Croton can be across the board. Even the lowly EB-8800 or Rhronda single jewel pin lever watches can be instructional. Some of these have quite nice finishes on the movement.

One of my mentors would have me practice filing. And not back and forth sawing. Would tell the story of an instructor who required students to file a 1 CM cube. One student took the project home. Returned with a perfectly machined cube. The instructor said. OK now make 400 more just like that one.

I have not looked into the DIY watch kits. That might be an option if one wanted something newer in style. There has been some talk about the forum doing one of these as a group project.

Do not be tempted for the cheap online tools from the big websites. These things tend to fall apart quickly. Go with the Bergeon or Horotek when ever one can. Just because a tool exist it does not mean it is the correct tool.

Tweezers become a personal item. Get the best ones you can. I was taught that you need to pick a hair off a piece of glass and flip it over. Which is a lot harder than it sounds.

This is also a photography forum so here is a photograph of my bench. I have been experimenting with cutting movement holders/rings out of acrylic using a laser cutter. Note that I pile my watchmaking books up to make a back shelf for the bench lamp.
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I've tried to compile some basic information for people like you, who are just starting out and doing this as a hobby. I've illustrated current techniques so that if you follow these you would be using the most up to date information. I make no guarantees, but have a look and if you have any questions, let me know. There are quite a few watchmakers here, so one of us will come up with an answer I'm sure.
Thanks, Al! Perfect information and greatly appreciated! I haven’t read all of them yet, but I did read some. Regarding the screwdriver sets, I searched for both brands on Amazon and came up empty. Is there a reasonable site to purchase them?
 
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Thanks, Al! Perfect information and greatly appreciated! I haven’t read all of them yet, but I did read some. Regarding the screwdriver sets, I searched for both brands on Amazon and came up empty. Is there a reasonable site to purchase them?

I don't typically buy parts or tools through places like Amazon or eBay. eBay for parts is a place of last resort for me.

I don't know where you are located, but I use watch material suppliers. In Canada that's mostly Perrin:

PERRIN- Canada's leading supplier for watch, clock and jewellery parts (perrinwatchparts.com)

In the US I have used several - one is Cas-Ker:

Cas-Ker Watchmaker and Jeweler Supplies (jewelerssupplies.com)

They have both screwdriver sets I use listed on this page:

Watchmakers Screwdriver Sets (jewelerssupplies.com)

Esslinger:

Watch Parts | Replacement Watch Supplies | Watch Repair Parts (esslinger.com)

Otto Frei (another last resort as I've not had good experiences with them):

Otto Frei Call 1-510-832-0355 For Watch Parts

Jules Borel:

Jules Borel & Co. | Watchmaking Supplies, Parts, and Tools

McCaw:

Watch Parts Online (mccawcompany.com)

Outside the North America I have used the following:

Urdelar:

urdelar.se

Cousins:

Clock Watch parts batteries jewellery findings Tools Equipment (cousinsuk.com)

Ernst-Westphall:

Ersatzteile für Uhren & Uhrwerke, Uhrenteile, Werkzeug und Zubehör (watchparts24.de)

Boley:

boley GmbH

Hope this helps. One thing to note - watchmaking is a rather specialized and uncommon occupation, so tools tend to be on the expensive side since there isn't a massive market for them. If your plan is to service a few movements your self and no more, it would be more economical to just pay to get them serviced. If you want to do it as a hobby for enjoyment, no worries, but as a pure money saving exercise, it will likely cost you far more than a few good services will.

Cheers, Al
 
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If you want advice from a newbie, I would highly recommend starting with servicing a movement that runs already. That way you will know that you messed up, if the watch doesn't run after you tinker with it. Most restoration videos on YouTube make it seem really easy to fix non-runners, but sometimes a watch has more than one issue. You can easily get discouraged if you lack the experience to spot those issues in a systematic way. You will fix the obvious one, and realize that it still doesn't run. Sometimes you get lucky if all that the watch needs is a service, or replacing a part that is obviously worn down / broken. That's when I call myself very lucky as a newbie, especially if I didn't pay too much for the watch due to it's non-running condition.

Some people recommend starting with pocket watches due to their size being larger than a wrist watch movement. I have two main issues with that. First, you have no idea how many watchmakers worked on a 100 year old watch and messed with it. Second, I had a hard time finding the right parts for the movements that I worked on. In most cases, you will need to cross reference a part, find a donor movement, and hope that it still has the part you are looking for. It could just be my lack of knowledge, but I can see any beginner being in the same position.

I started with the ST36 movement mentioned above, which is the Chinese clone of the ETA 6497. They are very cheap in the $30-$40 range, but I don't think they are built to be taken apart and put back together multiple times. I find Swiss movements easier to work with in terms of build quality and their tolerance to making stupid mistakes as a beginner.

Al's watchmaking tips series are very useful in terms of seeing how professionals do things compared to most YouTubers.

Again, I'm still a newbie and will be that way until I can dedicate more time on watchmaking and get proper training one day, so please take my advice with a grain of salt. I wish you the best with your journey.
 
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I collect watchbooks (we all have that annoying collectors gene don't we?) and have quite a few. And I would echo, some of the best writing on modern watch repair I've seen are Archer's posts.
I'd also recommend Frie and DeCarle and Daniels and a few others, it's great to get historical context and you will still learn things. (Liek how to burn a lamb bone properly and what you use it for!).
Oh and yes - always start by disassembling, cleaning and rebuilding/oiling a working movement as rendo says and for the reasons rendo states.
Finally - be careful as this rabbit hole is wide and deep. I probably spend more on tools these days than I do on watches!