Info on my grandfather's funky 1970s Omega Automatic

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Respect for each other seams not the strength of everybody here....

Perhaps this is a cultural difference, but IMO respect doesn't necessarily mean agreeing with everything that someone says. If someone posts something that is incorrect, I believe that it's ok to point it out. That's one way to maintain the integrity of the forum. These threads are searchable and archival, and there is little benefit to having a random mix of correct and incorrect information.

When someone corrects an incorrect post of mine, I don't complain that I have been disrespected. Instead I try to recognize my error and "like" their post.
 
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Several professional watchmakers on this forum. Why not ask them?
@Canuck , @Archer
Your thoughts about toothpaste to clean up a crystal? Yes? No? Maybe?
 
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Several professional watchmakers on this forum. Why not ask them?
@Canuck , @Archer
Your thoughts about toothpaste to clean up a crystal? Yes? No? Maybe?

That's a red herring @redpcar. 😉 I don't think anyone is saying that toothpaste is the best approach. The issue is more whether it's reasonable to use appropriate methods (including polishing compounds) to hand polish an acrylic crystal as a DIY project. Or whether it should only be done on a lathe by a professional.
 
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It's an abrasive like all the others. I'm saying that it is totally acceptable to use......in a pinch.
 
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It's an abrasive like all the others. I'm saying that it is totally acceptable to use......in a pinch.

I agree. I didn't realize that's what you were implying. I thought you were suggesting to ask the professional watchmakers, since they will probably not recommend toothpaste.
 
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Now that we know it is a ref. 166.0141, does anyone know what the original bracelet was and whether it is possible to find one in SS. There is Ian original ad posted elsewhere on OF that shows the bracelet but in gold. See https://omegaforums.net/attachments/2d5dc796-022f-483f-9a79-6b4ca560b4b9-jpeg.651711/

If you look closely at the watch in the advertisement there is a little band that goes between the day and the date. That indicates that it is a different watch with a 10xx movement. I searched for bracelets and found one for the similar 166.0142, but the lug width is different from the 166.0141. Also there was no listing for the 166.0118. Interestingly none of the examples of your watch I saw on the internet had a bracelet. Is the lug width 18 or 19mm? Hopefully a member can recommend an Omega bracelet that will work.
 
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If you look closely at the watch in the advertisement there is a little band that goes between the day and the date. That indicates that it is a different watch with a 10xx movement. I searched for bracelets and found one for the similar 166.0142, but the lug width is different from the 166.0141. Also there was no listing for the 166.0118. Interestingly none of the examples of your watch I saw on the internet had a bracelet. Is the lug width 18 or 19mm? Hopefully a member can recommend an Omega bracelet that will work.
Thanks so much @impalla62ss. My knowledge is mostly of 1950s vintage watches, especially Connies and Polerouters, so these 1970s references and movements are largely unfamiliar to me. We'll have to check the lug width to confirm if it is 18 or 19 mm.
 
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Perhaps this is a cultural difference, but IMO respect doesn't necessarily mean agreeing with everything that someone says. If someone posts something that is incorrect, I believe that it's ok to point it out. That's one way to maintain the integrity of the forum. These threads are searchable and archival, and there is little benefit to having a random mix of correct and incorrect information.

When someone corrects an incorrect post of mine, I don't complain that I have been disrespected. Instead I try to recognize my error and "like" their post.
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I am not talking about pro and contra using toothpaste on a watch.
I wrote I am very open for arguments!

If somebody wants to use toothpaste on their watch, I am ok with it! Their watch!

I just would not recommend it to others as toothpaste is not a polishing compound!
The difference between grinding-media and polishing-media is in the grain size!
“Looks fine to me” must not mean it’s fine polished to others.
Try to “polish“ your lenses with toothpaste...
Toothpaste also can stays it the space between crystal and bezel!

There are arguments against the use of toothpaste on a watch!


But, what I am talking about “respect to others” is to be called an
“borderline idiotic“ ...

That is no argument about toothpaste on a watch yes or no and why....

I am not at all ok with that!
And that has also nothing to do with cultural differences!

By the way the one and only post
of that person in this thread!
Might he has not much more to say...


It seams also ok to most of the folks here
... therefore I am out!



P.S.
Again, I am sorry for this mess here,
to the thread starter!
 
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It seams also ok to most of the folks here
... therefore I am out!

P.S.
Again, I am sorry for this mess here,
to the thread starter!
@Tako Yaki, as the starter of this thread and a frequent user of this forum, though a less frequent contributor, I'd urge you to give it another chance. OF is generally a helpful and supportive community and I am very sorry that the thread I initiated has given you the opposite impression.
 
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There are arguments against the use of toothpaste on a watch!


But, what I am talking about “respect to others” is to be called an
“borderline idiotic“ ...

That is no argument about toothpaste on a watch yes or no and why....

I am not at all ok with that!
And that has also nothing to do with cultural differences!

By the way the one and only post
of that person in this thread!
Might he has not much more to say...

The argument you bring up - that toothpaste can work its way past the seals and into the movement of the watch - does not need to be countered with rational arguments since it is completely irrational. Thousands have used polishing compounds such as Polywatch and others on their watches and I am yet to see anyone claiming that it has made its way into the watch. You tell me why this should be the case with toothpaste?

And no, I haven't got anything else to say on that subject. Your post prompted me to post a counter to it, because - as Dan S says:


...If someone posts something that is incorrect, I believe that it's ok to point it out. That's one way to maintain the integrity of the forum. These threads are searchable and archival, and there is little benefit to having a random mix of correct and incorrect information.

When someone corrects an incorrect post of mine, I don't complain that I have been disrespected. Instead I try to recognize my error and "like" their post.
 
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Now that we know it is a ref. 166.0141, does anyone know what the original bracelet was and whether it is possible to find one in SS. There is Ian original ad posted elsewhere on OF that shows the bracelet but in gold. See https://omegaforums.net/attachments/2d5dc796-022f-483f-9a79-6b4ca560b4b9-jpeg.651711/
Hi @dstern did you find out the reference number for the stainless steel bracelet for this 166.0141 reference? I recently came into possession of a blue dial 166.0141 and if I could find one I'd like to have it on the stainless steel bracelet.
 
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@OneTwo, I did not find the number for the bracelet. Your blue dialed one looks like it will be great when you get it cleaned and outfitted as you desire. If you learn the bracelet ref number, please let me know or post it here. Thanks.
 
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And after reading the arguments here I'm curious; How did the crystal clean up? Got any recent pics?
 
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@dstern I found a listing that had, what looks to be correct, stainless steel bracelet:
https://www.misterwolftime.com/product-page/omega-automatic-genève-ref-166-0120-in-stainless-steel
Photos won't load for some reason but here's what I noticed from the bracelet in the listing. End links don't appear to be stamped with a reference, nor is the clasp, but it is noted Duchess U.S.A. Stainless Steel with a patent number.

When I searched "Duchess Stainless Steel bracelet 3.690.064" I was able to find a similar style bracelet on eBay but it was not with an Omega stamped clasp and the end link design was a bit different.
 
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@Olhenry56 yes that is the bracelet I found but upon looking at the en link it looks like there is more articulation in the end link than in the omega version of the bracelet (the center part of the end link is more proud than the portion that meets the lugs).
 
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@dstern I found a listing that had, what looks to be correct, stainless steel bracelet:
https://www.misterwolftime.com/product-page/omega-automatic-genève-ref-166-0120-in-stainless-steel
Photos won't load for some reason but here's what I noticed from the bracelet in the listing. End links don't appear to be stamped with a reference, nor is the clasp, but it is noted Duchess U.S.A. Stainless Steel with a patent number.

When I searched "Duchess Stainless Steel bracelet 3.690.064" I was able to find a similar style bracelet on eBay but it was not with an Omega stamped clasp and the end link design was a bit different.
 
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Thank you. The photo you've found is for a 166.0120 with a quite different case shape. We'll have to keep searching.
 
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Thank you. The photo you've found is for a 166.0120 with a quite different case shape. We'll have to keep searching.

The cases seem very similar to me. Would you mind pointing out the differences? Edit: I do see that the case backs are different to accommodate the different movements. I suppose that could affect the way the bracelet would wear.

It does seem that the 166.0120 is the only one that I've seen with an original bracelet. Every 166.0141 I've seen (in my brief online search) has a strap or a bracelet that doesn't seem original or correct.
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It took me quite a while to get this serviced, but here it is with a new crystal, serviced but not polished, and with a new grey strap from Veblenist that I think looks great. The watch belongs to my brother, and we are excited to have this family heirloom looking sharp.