I would like to sell a watch, but have insufficient privileges

gostang9 · Oct 16, 2019

JwRosenthal
Totally agree, and I am a big fan of the 200 post rule for the exact reasons you state- I read the history of anyone from whom I have purchased.
But to continue your metaphor, if the same rude asshole walked into the same restaurant and announced “hey- I found this old Omega in my grandfather’s dresser and he worked for NASA back in the 60’s”, how many people here would say “oh, he is so rude, he needs to eat here with us for at least the next month or two” vs “hey, let’s go outside so I can see what’s you have in your bag.”

I lost something in the example you gave... if someone wanted to sell a watch to random strangers in a cafe, I'd be convinced he was mad and would stay far far away from him. I sure as hell wouldn't want to eat with him for two months... must have missed your point.

Cafes are for eating. But there's a social 'norm' and most respectable people first observe what the local 'norm' is, and then attempt to mimic it in some way. (In the US, some bar-style restaurants you seat yourself, many you wait for a server to seat you. You have to pay attention and follow that 'norm'. In the UK, some pub-style restaurants you order at the bar before sitting, others you wait for a server to seat you. Again, it's up to you the visitor to figure out and follow the 'norm').

Watch forums are for discussing watches. There's a social 'norm' here too, and rules. The rules are clearly spelled out in the stickies, and how well someone follows our 'norm' can be seen by reading their first 200 posts.

JwRosenthal · Oct 16, 2019

Archer
Well, the enablers who do this are part of the problem...some openly admit doing it. People come here with these watches and post for sale ads in places where they don't belong in part because it works...

I personally won't reward someone for doing this, but others will.

As you said- it works. We all know what a veiled WTS thread looks like in the guise of “help me figure out what to do which my grandfathers watch.” We had one just recently for a very coveted and rare model and people pussy-footed around the point for pages-I just couldn’t take it anymore.

JwRosenthal · Oct 16, 2019

gostang9
I lost something in the example you gave... if someone wanted to sell a watch to random strangers in a cafe, I'd be convinced he was mad and would stay far far away from him. I sure as hell wouldn't want to eat with him for two months... must have missed your point.

Cafes are for eating. But there's a social 'norm' and most respectable people first observe what the local 'norm' is, and then attempt to mimic it in some way. (In the US, some bar-style restaurants you seat yourself, many you wait for a server to seat you. You have to pay attention and follow that 'norm'. In the UK, some pub-style restaurants you order at the bar before sitting, others you wait for a server to seat you. Again, it's up to you the visitor to figure out and follow the 'norm').

Watch forums are for discussing watches. There's a social 'norm' here too, and rules. The rules are clearly spelled out in the stickies, and how well someone follows our 'norm' can be seen by reading their first 200 posts.

Bad metaphor in my part- doesn’t seem to work when I read it back with your commentary ::facepalm1::

My point is as I said in response to archer- at least the OP of this thread was direct and got told. I find the sly slow sell far more annoying, just come out with it!

gostang9 · Oct 16, 2019

This thread is now at page 5 of 5, for a topic most of us know comes up very often. You could argue we're all wasting our time, but maybe not.

Several things can happen...
- @Nieuwenhout decides to stick around and becomes a valued new member
- someone decides to buy his watch at risk via PM (he was 'engaged in conversation' 11m ago...), we never hear from this user again
- someone links new inquiries back to this thread in the future (I've seen @STANDY do this expertly many times...)

BlackTalon · Oct 16, 2019

One possible solution -- make PMs publicly accessible until the person reaches 200 posts

If nothing else, it would be entertaining 😁

JwRosenthal · Oct 16, 2019

BlackTalon
One possible solution -- make PMs publicly accessible until the person reaches 200 posts

If nothing else, it would be entertaining 😁

lol! Find that the people who scold the most are the first to jump on the thing.

gostang9 · Oct 16, 2019

JwRosenthal
My point is as I said in response to archer- at least the OP of this thread was direct and got told. I find the sly slow sell far more annoying, just come out with it!

Got it, and makes sense. I think an ideal scenario would be:

- new user arrives, only wants to sell an Omega
- signs up with username
- reads through the various forums (shows willing to learn and invest time)
- realizes they are not authorized to sell here, but still a wealth of knowledge to advise on selling
- posts a thread about their watch, acknowledges they know they cannot sell here, explains their situation, shares good pictures and good details, asks honestly for advice how best to sell such a watch, where and for what target value
- most threads like this will result in a lot of good meaningful feedback, some good nature'd ribbing, a sense of value and an explanation behind it (some old watches are worth little, some worth very much)

KstateSkier · Oct 16, 2019

I think the real problem is the instructions are written in cursive. Might as well be spanish for millennials.

MoclovFlop · Oct 16, 2019

In a bit of a twist, If people commented on these "200 post" threads as often as they come up, you could probably get close to 200 posts pretty quickly.

This is my meta comment for the day. Carry on.

shishy · Oct 16, 2019

Foo2rama
if only there was bolded posts at the top of both sales forums helpfully listed as please read and rules.

you would think something like that would be fairly obvious right? If it existed you would think at a minimum anyone that could actually put something in a box and ship it would have the intelligence to see and read.

I know it's easy for you and me, but accessible UX is hard, especially when you remember the diverse population this forum is accessible to (anyone in the world, of any age, who have varying experience and levels of intuition about navigating a website). There are always going to be people for whom it's unintuitive. But in this case, there's a really easy fix that I described that I'm quite confident will eliminate the vast majority of these posts.

cicindela · Oct 16, 2019

The End.

I would like to sell a watch, but have insufficient privileges

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