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  1. Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! Jun 22, 2015

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    It's nice to be informed, and certainly better than a complete faux-router. Still, highly undesirable. :thumbsdown:
     
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  2. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Jun 22, 2015

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    By Ebay standards, that's complete transparency
     
  3. georgetownhoya Jun 22, 2015

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    Absolutely, LouS! Darlinboy, the watch in question is a standard Faux-router - a real UG microtor movement with everything else fake. It comes from the eBay user 3duacon, who has been selling fake recessed pocket watches and fake Polerouters along with other fake things for years.
     
  4. corporalsparrow Nov 17, 2015

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    Hi all,

    A first time poster on here, and somewhat alarmed by what I've read!

    I have a UG Sub that I bought well over 10 years ago, probably around 2004. Now I'm wondering if it's the real deal or not. I certainly matches the visual description you guys have given (although, to the untrained eye...it's hard to be exact).

    Can anyone tell me when these suspected fakes from Australia are supposed to have been made?

    Thanks very much,

    davis
     
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  5. ELV web Nov 17, 2015

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    Pictures will set you free :)
     
  6. corporalsparrow Nov 17, 2015

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    It's this one. Pics may not be good enough[​IMG]
     
  7. georgetownhoya Nov 17, 2015

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    I am sorry to say it looks like an Australian.
     
  8. rolokr Nov 17, 2015

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    It's an Australian !
     
  9. gophishin Nov 17, 2015

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    Question on 2nd generation Polerouter Subs (asymmetric case/orange hands): would these ever NOT have a "SWISS T" signed dial? Or could it simply be a case of a new and incorrect crystal/rehaut covering? (seller has confirmed it does not have any (visible) SWISS text)
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  10. styggpyggeno1 ΩF Enforcer ....and thread killer Nov 17, 2015

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    I do not have the answer to Swiss T or not - but that dial looks "kosher" to me.
     
  11. rolokr Nov 17, 2015

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    Old lume ?
     
  12. HeuerLoon Nov 17, 2015

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    Yes. There appears to be some loss of lume but the dial is legit.
     
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  13. styggpyggeno1 ΩF Enforcer ....and thread killer Nov 17, 2015

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    Yes and no... More looking at text/fonts/hairline/minute track and indexes in detail and as a whole. Deteriorating lume can be faked but to get all the other stuff right is difficult.
     
  14. ping pong patina Nov 17, 2015

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    Australian
     
  15. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Nov 21, 2015

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    Howls of derisive laughter, Bruce:

    Watches of Knightsbridge Nov 21 2015 - sold for GBP3800


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  16. ELV web Nov 21, 2015

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    Poor buyer....
     
  17. Diabolik Nov 21, 2015

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    some desperate buyers out there with more money than sense!
    ::facepalm1::
     
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  18. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Nov 21, 2015

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    To Desperate Buyers: I happen to have one of these and will let it go for a lot less!
     
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  19. cpd_cpd Feb 28, 2016

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    My father just gave me what appears to be a first execution version of the polerouter. He bought it in the early seventies and has had it in a drawer for a few decades. I have just read this thread and now have questions about authenticity.

    Also, do others on here have advice about getting the watc serviced? It seems to be keeping time since I put it on, but the lume looks rather fuzzy and the crystal has some noticeable scratches (my dad said it saw heavy use back in the day). Is the scratched crystal evidence that this isn't authentic? Lettering seems to match the authentic examples on here (e.g., no space in Geneve; serifs on the text).

    Can the crystal be polished? Do seals need to be updated? I've never owned an automatic watch...advice very welcome, thanks.

    Here is a pic:
     
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  20. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Feb 28, 2016

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    Here we go: that watch is authentic. Mess with it as little as possible. If you want to keep it, polish the crystal, service the movement, DONT TOUCH THE LUME. Make sure whatever watchmaker works on it understands this. If you want to sell it, don't do anything at all. What you regard as improvements are likely to be regarded as heinous mutilations by the vintage watch crowd,