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Do you consider the Speedmaster to be a luxury watch?
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SteveHH
·We all have our own definitions. The Speedmaster is a tool watch hence my analogy. If you need a tool to tell time and use as a stopwatch or tachymeter it's a nice one. It isn't crusted with diamonds or have other frivolous complications.
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Df13
·In one sense, yes, but every person I've ever seen wearing a Speedmaster has never used it as a tool watch, they just think it's neat looking with a rich history. So, it's not a tool watch to them, it's more of an emblem.. That's a luxury item to me. (I've used the stopwatch a few times, but since there is one on my cell phone, do I need it on my watch? No, but it's more fun that way.)
That's what I've been trying to get at. It's all relative to the owner. For some, Jordan shoes are a fashionable luxury item, but for others, they're merely good basketball shoes.
I personally don't buy watches for any other reason than them being well made tools that get heavy use, just like an expensive pocket knife, Norwegian welt boots, etc.
I will say that, especially since the quartz crisis, the advertising thrust of mechanical watches certainly aims towards luxury, which personally turns me off.
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mikesspeedy
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I for one do not care too much about its status as a luxury item. I have mine for my own reasons and to be honest I don't give a flying F*** what anyone else thinks. I don't care if they do or don't notice it. I do care its a clean gentleman's classic watch that reminds me of a day I spent as a very young boy watching the moon landing with my late father. I wear mine with pride.
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Rman
·In one sense, yes, but every person I've ever seen wearing a Speedmaster has never used it as a tool watch, they just think it's neat looking with a rich history. So, it's not a tool watch to them, it's more of an emblem.. That's a luxury item to me. (I've used the stopwatch a few times, but since there is one on my cell phone, do I need it on my watch? No, but it's more fun that way.)
People hang pretty axes on their walls too that they never use ( 🙄 )
Does that mean an axe isn't a tool because we have central heating?
Your definition is rather limiting.
A well made tool can be deemed luxurious but it is still purposeful. It could also be artfully made, is it art then? Up to the person's definition. And then there's collectibility...
I just saw a beautiful war hammer in the National Museum of Ireland. I think at the time of its creation you would be remiss to tell it's owner it was a "luxury" item would you not? Although it was beautifully made and superior to most others of the era it was made for cracking skulls. Now it's worth probably hundreds of thousands but does that make it a luxury item without the branding behind it? Hmmm not sure.
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mikesspeedy
·My 0.02, I do not see the Speedmaster as a luxury watch. I consider it "High End Utility".
When dressing for an event, Casual or Business Casual is a Speedmaster. Smart or Business dress is a Rolex. Sorry guys....
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Motman
·Its probably just me, but when ever I see a Rolex I just think trying to look like they have made the grade (whatever that means), too obvious by a long way.
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Uniqez
·This topic is so subjective and related straight to the person's income. If you can buy Speedy all day every day, without putting a little hole in your budget it would never be a luxury item for you.
It was a thread here, gentleman who was trying to justify purchase of SM, made a comment that he will spend 3 times more than he makes per month on a watch...
It will definitely be a luxury watch(item) for him.
It was a thread here, gentleman who was trying to justify purchase of SM, made a comment that he will spend 3 times more than he makes per month on a watch...
It will definitely be a luxury watch(item) for him.
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mikesspeedy
·I don't think the OP was trying to define the word or idea of luxury. I think he was saying he wanted his speedy to make him feel like he owned a very special item. I think he wanted to feel a million bucks wearing it. The standard speedy has no diamonds, gold, silver or platinum. So I think he has maybe got the wrong watch for him. Maybe move it on to someone who will appreciate it for what it is and get himself a watch that does make him feel good whatever that watch may be. Personally I love the understated look and feel of the speedy, but I get that's not for everyone. As I have said before that's why Omega make so many different watches ...we all have different things that blow our hair back so Omega, being all wise, cater for all our varied needs.
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w.finkenstaedt
·This topic is so subjective and related straight to the person's income. If you can buy Speedy all day every day, without putting a little hole in your budget it would never be a luxury item for you.
It was a thread here, gentleman who was trying to justify purchase of SM, made a comment that he will spend 3 times more than he makes per month on a watch...
It will definitely be a luxury watch(item) for him.
A Speedmaster costs thousands of dollars. 90% of people will never be willing to pay that for a watch. Just as many people would never pay thousands for a Louis Vuitton bag.
Just because YOU (collective you, not singling you out individually) use a luxury watch as a tool doesn't make it not a luxury watch. It just means that you're taking your Louis Vuitton bag out into the wilderness, which they are easily capable of.
A BMW is an entry-level luxury car in the exact same way that a Speedmaster is an entry-level luxury watch. Having billions of dollars doesn't suddenly stop that from being true.
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watchmavan
·This isn't really the case. It's not subjective.
A Speedmaster costs thousands of dollars. 90% of people will never be willing to pay that for a watch. Just as many people would never pay thousands for a Louis Vuitton bag.
Just because YOU (collective you, not singling you out individually) use a luxury watch as a tool doesn't make it not a luxury watch. It just means that you're taking your Louis Vuitton bag out into the wilderness, which they are easily capable of.
A BMW is an entry-level luxury car in the exact same way that a Speedmaster is an entry-level luxury watch. Having billions of dollars doesn't suddenly stop that from being true.
Exactly. [emoji106]
People simply don't seem to have a good understanding of language and rather than using a common language, which is its purpose, they want to change it to sets of individual languages that are relative to themselves.
It's all about ME.
If they had a grasp on language and they wanted to make their piont about their buckets of money, then the response should be that they have interest or want something MORE luxurious.
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watchmavan
·In Australia, any car over $50k gets slapped with a luxury tax. A BMW series 3 costs $78,900 before options.
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Uniqez
·This isn't really the case. It's not subjective.
A Speedmaster costs thousands of dollars. 90% of people will never be willing to pay that for a watch. Just as many people would never pay thousands for a Louis Vuitton bag.
Just because YOU (collective you, not singling you out individually) use a luxury watch as a tool doesn't make it not a luxury watch. It just means that you're taking your Louis Vuitton bag out into the wilderness, which they are easily capable of.
A BMW is an entry-level luxury car in the exact same way that a Speedmaster is an entry-level luxury watch. Having billions of dollars doesn't suddenly stop that from being true.
If we are talking about Speedy Pro, for me it is an entry level luxury watch for sure.I weren't trying to say that it isn't.
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Uniqez
·In Australia, any car over $50k gets slapped with a luxury tax. A BMW series 3 costs $78,900 before options.
Would you consider it as a luxury watch?
P.S. 3 series BMW in the states starts at $33k-$35k...
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Rman
·In Australia, any car over $50k gets slapped with a luxury tax. A BMW series 3 costs $78,900 before options.
Even though the founders of this site are from down unda I respectfully refuse to have luxury defined by the Australian Government 😝
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bnabod
·Definitely yes, wait definitely no, wait who cares
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watchmavan
·Even though the founders of this site are from down unda I respectfully refuse to have luxury defined by the Australian Government 😝
US Congress enacted luxury tax on all foreign car over $30k.
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watchmavan
·P.S. 3 series BMW in the states starts at $33k-$35k...
And in the great old US OF A...
Luxury tax is imposed on all foreign cars over $30k.
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Uniqez
·And in the great old US OF A...
Luxury tax is imposed on all foreign cars over $30k.
Here you go, straight from Wikipedia:
"Congress enacted a 10 percent luxury surcharge tax on boats over $100,000, cars over $30,000, aircraft over $250,000, and furs and jewelry over $10,000. The federal government estimated that it would raise $9 billion in excess revenues over the following five-year period. However, only two years after its imposition, in August 1993, the Congress decided to eliminate the “luxury tax” since it did not achieve its main objective. It is noteworthy that it "failed" by only raising $8.9 billion--that is, it fell $97 million short of its projected revenue. According to the tax's critics, these revenues were disappointing and unsatisfactory and also negatively impacted the incomes of the sellers of the luxury items. However, the luxury automobile tax remained in effect until 2002."
We are in 2017 now and this thread is drifting away from OP's main subject.
