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mattonthewater
路Too early in the morning. No coffee yet, and whisky tasting last night. My bad lol, trust me I know the difference.
I shall award myself an award.
I got a good giggle out of that, young padawan.
Buy my first speedmaster or wait for new 2020 releases?
I got a good giggle out of that, young padawan.
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mjb
路Didn't they sell like a crap-load of 1861 over the years? I would suspect that there are too many out there for them to be rare collectibles.
Of course, you can take my knowledge and opinion along with two dollars and buy a really poor cup of coffee.
Of course, you can take my knowledge and opinion along with two dollars and buy a really poor cup of coffee.
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Capt Cave Man
路All interesting, I'm currently saving as planning to buy a birth year and a new Speedmaster for my 50th in ahem, a few years time...
As I'm new to the watch scene, hunting, collecting, aspiring as well as emptying certain funds 馃槜 I went to my OD in Cambridge before Xmas to have an Omega bracelet put on my 168.0065 Constellation and tried on a couple of Speedmasters stating my aim for both.
The gentleman stated I should buy one now as prices will be increasing in the new year. I took this with a pinch of salt at the time thinking it was a push for a sale but this ties in with the change in movement being discussed.
Makes me consider if I should push the button earlier on a new one rather than having to spend a further 拢1-3k in a few years time as I'm also swaying towards a straight writing rather than a birth year....
As I'm new to the watch scene, hunting, collecting, aspiring as well as emptying certain funds 馃槜 I went to my OD in Cambridge before Xmas to have an Omega bracelet put on my 168.0065 Constellation and tried on a couple of Speedmasters stating my aim for both.
The gentleman stated I should buy one now as prices will be increasing in the new year. I took this with a pinch of salt at the time thinking it was a push for a sale but this ties in with the change in movement being discussed.
Makes me consider if I should push the button earlier on a new one rather than having to spend a further 拢1-3k in a few years time as I'm also swaying towards a straight writing rather than a birth year....
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GoBlueJedi
路What's the current info/rumor on whether the 3861 version would be NASA flight certified? I know I've asked this previously in other threads, but it sounds like the quality/reliability of the available info is considerably higher than it was 6-12 months ago. Just curious if anyone has heard anything quasi-official or if it's all still just pure speculation.
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Eve
路Just speculating, but i guess Omega could replce 1861 by 3861 without the NASA certification, and for those for whom the certification is a must will get the 321 Speedy.
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Foo2rama
路路Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...What's the current info/rumor on whether the 3861 version would be NASA flight certified? I know I've asked this previously in other threads, but it sounds like the quality/reliability of the available info is considerably higher than it was 6-12 months ago. Just curious if anyone has heard anything quasi-official or if it's all still just pure speculation.
the 861 was last certified in @1979 for the STS program. NASA has stopped wearing watches externally on space suits for over a decade if not more.
Now on the launch/landing escape suit in the Soyuz system almost all NASA astronauts and all Cosmonauts wear a Speedmaster externally.
I believe Omega has already commented that they don鈥檛 think NASA will recertify the watch nor will they pay too. But anything could happen. Currently there are no restrictions on personal watches taken to the space station.
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bucksandreds
路I say buy if you like one. Omega has been raising MSRP faster than inflation and I鈥檝e noticed higher grey market prices as well. In 6 months you鈥檒l probably not be able to buy the watch you want at the price it is now.
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McBeardy
路Hijack & resurrection of an old thread, anyone have any ideas when Omega will be announcing the new Speedy for this year? Delayed maybe due to the current climate?
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gbesq
路Jomashop is now asking $4,495 USD for the 1861 hesalite Speedy Pro on the bracelet. That's about a 1k increase in the grey market price of this model over the past year or so.
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gbesq
路It鈥檚 possible that production has stopped on those.
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Vercingetorix
路路Spam Risk5 years from now Omega will reintroduce the 861 and people will pay 2x what they are now for the same watch. Marketing genius. Just like the new coke all those years ago.
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Archer
路路Omega Qualified WatchmakerIt鈥檚 possible that production has stopped on those.
I don't think Jomashop has any inside information on the future of the Speedmaster.
I think that they are betting people will think that, and be willing to pay the price in the hopes that value will go up even more.
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vbrad26
路Also says "ships in 6-10 weeks".
That seems excessive...and seems to be for all "moonwatch" models.
Co-ax can be shipped next day...
EDIT:
Just checked Omega's website and it says:
"Sorry, but this product is currently not available. Make sure you join the waiting list"
This is for a regular .005
That seems excessive...and seems to be for all "moonwatch" models.
Co-ax can be shipped next day...
EDIT:
Just checked Omega's website and it says:
"Sorry, but this product is currently not available. Make sure you join the waiting list"
This is for a regular .005
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Archer
路路Omega Qualified WatchmakerEDIT:
Just checked Omega's website and it says:
"Sorry, but this product is currently not available. Make sure you join the waiting list"
This is for a regular .005
Not sure I would read too much into that. I've seen watches have this message one day, and be listed as available later on.
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vbrad26
路. <------ Got my grain of salt lol.
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gbesq
路It's all interesting and highly speculative at this point. My sense is that Omega will eventually phase out the 1861 in favor of the 3861 and raise the price by a couple grand, but whether it happens this year or years from now is anyone's guess. I do stand by my opinion that if and when the 1861 hesalite version is phased out that it will be the last descendant of the "true" moon watches.
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wolfe44
路It's all interesting and highly speculative at this point. My sense is that Omega will eventually phase out the 1861 in favor of the 3861 and raise the price by a couple grand, but whether it happens this year or years from now is anyone's guess. I do stand by my opinion that if and when the 1861 hesalite version is phased out that it will be the last descendant of the "true" moon watches.
