Anybody see this speedy?

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Any pawnbroker would go straight to the internet and find out its true value. He already knows it has a 'red' hand.
 
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Any pawnbroker would go straight to the internet and find out its true value. He already knows it has a 'red' hand.
You would be surprised- I have found many things in pawnshops in recent years that were insanely priced and others where I really couldn’t believe they didn’t know. I am assuming, if this is indeed real, that they just looked up a ‘67 Speedy’s value and didn’t realize the orange hand was anything special- you are giving the pawnbroker much more credit than may be due.
And if they did look up the Ultraman and question it’s legitimacy, then that’s the most honest pawnbroker I have ever seen to price it at a standard ‘67 price point.
 
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i'd tend to believe the latter argument... many pawnshops i've been to, the owners are of a pre-internet generation and tend to "know it all" and go with their gut... sometimes to their loss.
 
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To further drive the point of how could a watch like that end up with a pawnshop? A member here, who works with disabled and homeless at shelters was telling me about a person at his shelter who was wearing a very rare vintage Seiko worth real money. Obviously due to ethical reasons he can’t offer to buy the watch- even if the money would help the person. His fear is that he’ll take it to a pawn shop and get $50 for it- which is one of the ways watches like this end up in pawnshops. I advised him to let the person know they have a valuable watch and if they choose to sell it, to not be taken advantage of.
 
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i'd tend to believe the latter argument... many pawnshops i've been to, the owners are of a pre-internet generation and tend to "know it all" and go with their gut... sometimes to their loss.
I know- off topic, but a couple years ago (very much in the internet era), I was at a pawnshop and found a full lineman’s bag of tools lying on a bottom shelf- all Klein electrical cutters in every size, both sizes of strippers, full set of Klein nut drivers, full set of Wiha screwdriver, TOTL Fluke Multimeter etc. I asked how much and the guy said $5 per tool or $50 for the whole bag. He also had a glass case of Craftsman socket sets- those he wanted $300 a set- about new MSRP at the time...he went with his gut, he knew Craftsman, but clearly didn’t know Klein or Wiha
 
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A couple of things to bear in mind. Pawnshops, at least here in the UK also buy and sell items outright, not everything they sell has been pawned, indeed those items may be in the minority, and the second thing is that not all pawnshop operatives are honest. You seem to be pretty sure of the facts here. I am less certain that there will be a happy outcome for the buyer. There could be a number of outcomes when the back is lifted, the extract applied for, and it put up for future sale, some happy some not so great. It could, for instance be stolen property. To blindly assume it'll be a diamond in the rough is not sensible, it could be, it might not. The seller seems pretty keen not to disclose the serial number. I wonder why? He also seems to want a cash only sale, again this raises an eyebrow.
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A couple of things to bear in mind. Pawnshops, at least here in the UK also buy and sell items outright, not everything they sell has been pawned, indeed those items may be in the minority, and the second thing is that not all pawnshop operatives are honest. You seem to be pretty sure of the facts here. I am less certain that there will be a happy outcome for the buyer. There could be a number of outcomes when the back is lifted, the extract applied for, and it put up for future sale, some happy some not so great. It could, for instance be stolen property. To blindly assume it'll be a diamond in the rough is not sensible, it could be, it might not. The seller seems pretty keen not to disclose the serial number. I wonder why? He also seems to want a cash only sale, again this raises an eyebrow.
Completely agree with all- I’m just posing that sometimes things slip through the cracks and when they do it’s lovely. But agree that there are more nefarious types out there than not.

And considering the pawnshop only wanted an in person cash deal, let’s hope the buyer did their research and knows what they’re looking at.
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I spoke with the seller at length...

Not what you'd call "sophisticated"...I'll leave it at that.
 
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Pawn brokers also will often prefer to move product quicker than people on forums who may be more patient to get the realized full market value.
 
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True about not knowing their stock, I bought a beautiful 2254 from a pawn shop here in the UK, it’s the auto which is generally £400/600 more than the quartz, I think he looked online recognised the watch and set the price even though he was probably looking at a quartz version.
 
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Seeing the guys pic, I messaged from my wife’s FB account...she is really cute, so am hoping that helps.
If all else fails, pimp out the cute wife for the watch! lol
 
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I have asked one of my local pawnbroker about vintage watches- they said they only take newer style watches (Rolex, Invicta, Breitling) bling-big and gaudy- that’s what their clientele want. He said they turn away vintage watches as they don’t move them...I think I will go back and see if I can start a “relationship” for them to call me when someone bring in an old Omega/Longines/Blancpain that nobody would would want. 😉
 
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nice. glad to see more ultraman coming out of dirt. hopefully the price keeps coming down.....
 
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I had a long talk with him...

It was legit...but I couldn't strike a deal because he wanted local cash.

I was with the family and honestly didn't want to mess with it.
Did he give you any more information or photos that made you sure it was legit? Looks in similar condition to my ed white that I found at a local auction late last year!
 
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To further drive the point of how could a watch like that end up with a pawnshop? A member here, who works with disabled and homeless at shelters was telling me about a person at his shelter who was wearing a very rare vintage Seiko worth real money. Obviously due to ethical reasons he can’t offer to buy the watch- even if the money would help the person. His fear is that he’ll take it to a pawn shop and get $50 for it- which is one of the ways watches like this end up in pawnshops. I advised him to let the person know they have a valuable watch and if they choose to sell it, to not be taken advantage of.
What kind of Seiko was it, 6217 comes to
mind?
 
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Bummer I’m seeing this now. I live about an hour and half from there.
 
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I think is sold already...

Be interesting to know what it sold for? Walking in with cash, explaining some of the pitfalls with the watch and you could have got a fair amount lower than his asking, finds like this do come up but it’s just being in the right place at the right time..
 
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Be interesting to know what it sold for? Walking in with cash, explaining some of the pitfalls with the watch and you could have got a fair amount lower than his asking, finds like this do come up but it’s just being in the right place at the right time..
I’m curious if someone from the forum got it!

I could have flown in but with the holidays and the Nono removing the dust cap I said no thanks.
 
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I’m curious if someone from the forum got it!

I could have flown in but with the holidays and the Nono removing the dust cap I said no thanks.
He has relisted it for $25,000
Too much surely!
 
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He has relisted it for $25,000
Too much surely!
Then some do-gooder probably told him what it was- nobody likes a hall monitor.