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Riviera Paradise
·Getting a bit tired of your opinion about the ST
We know you prefer the chocolate lume 60th
As several have said let it go........
Alternatives to the Speedy Tuesday LE
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speedolex
·Hear, hear. It amazes me how certain people in the OF feel the need to put something down in order to value something else they prefer. The Speedy Tuesday was a hit because it contains a unique and very consistent combination of design elements. Period. It was not "fuelled" by media as Speedolex mentions...the reservations were concluded in 4 hours, before hoodinke, abtw etc. could react.
I was referring to Omega discussion forums. They are social media moreso than blogs.
I have been collecting wrist watches among other notable items for 25 years and I've seen this phenomena before, it's happened to me personally at least three times, swept up in discussion forum passion, get it home and after a month it loses its luster. By no means am I putting the watch down, I think it is very attractive.
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Riviera Paradise
·I was referring to Omega discussion forums. They are social media moreso than blogs.
I have been collecting wrist watches among other notable items for 25 years and I've seen this phenomena before, it's happened to me personally at least three times, swept up in discussion forum passion, get it home and after a month it loses its luster. By no means am I putting the watch down, I think it is very attractive.
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorGetting a bit tired of your opinion about me as a poster.
We are here to discuss wristwatches, not other posters. If you don't like me, that's fine, put me on ignore.
The advice I gave the OP is sound, it will play out that way.
Don't think your a nob, just your penchant to tell your opinion over and over again
How did the ST get swept up in discussion it was over before anyone could talk about it
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speedolex
·Right, I agree that there can be a herd effect fueled by watch forums both for and against a given watch, but I don't think the SpeedyTuesday was different from any other watch...we first of all see them being launched (eg. at Basel) with all the marketing hype and then we either are disappointed or pleasantly surprised when we get a chance to see them on the wrist. I think with the ST we have enough existing references around in terms of the Speedy Pro with Hesalite to anticipate how it will look / feel on the wrist...so of course, some will be disappointed but I don't think it will be different specifically for the ST - social media launched watch, which I believe is your argument here.
Good post. My point, some of which we are in agreement, is that this wasn't some LE intended for the masses but rather a homage to social media and discussion forums in particular. The very origin of "#speedytuesday" on Facebook, Twitter, and discussion forums had a purpose of uniting hardcore fans as a club of sorts, I myself would break Submariner routine to wear a Speedmaster to work with the sole intent of posting a pic. We've all done this.
So with this "club" mentality, a watch was designed and prototyped by the Speedy Tuesday fan originator and launched on the public with immediate presale. Created about as much of an online frenzy as anything in the history of horology, sold out within a day. So all I'm saying is that the odds of purchase regret might be pretty high here as (dare I say) all ST buyers already have a Speedmaster and the internet buzz of being a part of a viral event will have long faded by the summer.
No knock on the watch itself- it's great looking. I'm just commenting on the phenomena and how I think this will play out giving the OP a good shot at a ST of his own on release day (at $1K over MSRP) or a few months later (below MSRP).
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speedolex
·Don't think your a nob, just your penchant to tell your opinion over and over again
How did the ST get swept up in discussion it was over before anyone could talk about it
How about we agree that if we have comments about each other as posters we'll take it to PM instead of making it a public spectacle. I'm new here, trying to fit in, I think I've made some decent contributions to date, your point is taken on repetition but perhaps you shouldn't frequent redundant threads on the value of the 60 vs. the ST. Clearly some of us wish to have a deeper conversation on the topic, it's not for you to judge how much is too much.
Regarding the ST getting swept up in a frenzy, please see my post above. This was quite an anomaly.
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R3D9
·If you can wait 2 to 6 months you will see these on the secondary market in slightly worn condition below MSRP.[/QUOTE]
I really hope you're right about this, but the current price of the Silver Snoopy makes me somewhat pessimistic. Time will tell...
This. Two reasons:
First, $10,000 CDN is roughly $1,000 more USD than the Speedy Tuesday list price, and certainly there will be plenty of profiteers moving them unworn at that premium within the first month of release.
Second, the Speedy Tuesday has all the hallmarks of a regretful purchase for many holding a reservation. This watch above all others is an internet phenomenon fueled by like-minded people on social media. What looks good in photographs and in online conversation can look insignificant once it's in someone's home and the attention has faded. If you can wait 2 to 6 months you will see these on the secondary market in slightly worn condition below MSRP.
I really hope you're right about this, but the current price of the Silver Snoopy makes me somewhat pessimistic. Time will tell...
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speedolex
·I really hope you're right about this, but the current price of the Silver Snoopy makes me somewhat pessimistic. Time will tell...
Charles Schultz's Peanuts is one of the biggest brands in the world, demand for the Snoopy Speedmaster is as much driven by people who own Linus toilet paper and Charlie Brown towels in their Peanuts-themed bathrooms as it is from Omega aficionados.
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Riviera Paradise
·Good post. My point, some of which we are in agreement, is that this wasn't some LE intended for the masses but rather a homage to social media and discussion forums in particular. The very origin of "#speedytuesday" on Facebook, Twitter, and discussion forums had a purpose of uniting hardcore fans as a club of sorts, I myself would break Submariner routine to wear a Speedmaster to work with the sole intent of posting a pic. We've all done this.
So with this "club" mentality, a watch was designed and prototyped by the Speedy Tuesday fan originator and launched on the public with immediate presale. Created about as much of an online frenzy as anything in the history of horology, sold out within a day. So all I'm saying is that the odds of purchase regret might be pretty high here as (dare I say) all ST buyers already have a Speedmaster and the internet buzz of being a part of a viral event will have long faded by the summer.
No knock on the watch itself- it's great looking. I'm just commenting on the phenomena and how I think this will play out giving the OP a good shot at a ST of his own on release day (at $1K over MSRP) or a few months later (below MSRP).
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lillatroll
·I don't think I would buy a specific alternative for the Speedytuesday. The reservation system meant that I could reserve one without paying anything down. No worries about liking the watch or not. I think that If I had to pay up a deposit I would have given it a bit more thought but I definately would have ordered one. I liked it as soon as I saw it but the reservation process made it a no brainer.
As to future prices or whatever, my guiding mantra is only buy a watch that I love and I don't consider profits or losses as part of the equation. I enjoy this hobby because of the watches and financial loss or gain cannot be a consideration for me to really enjoy it.
As to future prices or whatever, my guiding mantra is only buy a watch that I love and I don't consider profits or losses as part of the equation. I enjoy this hobby because of the watches and financial loss or gain cannot be a consideration for me to really enjoy it.
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MCG555
·I believe
-Almost everyone that made the reservation, has a Speedy already, or wanted one for some time.
-I don't know anybody, who saw it in the metal, that was disappointed. Rather the opposit, including me.
-The social media hype adds to this feeling...
So I guess 90% will actually buy the watch in June!
But I also agree that some of them will get tired of it and will sell it again, as with every other watch as well...
-Almost everyone that made the reservation, has a Speedy already, or wanted one for some time.
-I don't know anybody, who saw it in the metal, that was disappointed. Rather the opposit, including me.
-The social media hype adds to this feeling...
So I guess 90% will actually buy the watch in June!
But I also agree that some of them will get tired of it and will sell it again, as with every other watch as well...
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Foo2rama
··Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can.Charles Schultz's Peanuts is one of the biggest brands in the world, demand for the Snoopy Speedmaster is as much driven by people who own Linus toilet paper and Charlie Brown towels in their Peanuts-themed bathrooms as it is from Omega aficionados.
Your opinion of what looks good is not universal, they are your opinions, others are different. In the world of Speedy Collectors, they have spoken the ST is a huge homage to collectors, and they love the look. Stop telling everyone they are wrong if they like it, or have a different opinion then you.
If you want to keep talking in absolutes and dismissing proven opinions of long time members with zero facts, things will start to go poorly for you in terms of people's opinion of you. If anything your already taking pages directly out of the Troll Handbook.
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MCG555
·Charles Schultz's Peanuts is one of the biggest brands in the world, demand for the Snoopy Speedmaster is as much driven by people who own Linus toilet paper and Charlie Brown towels in their Peanuts-themed bathrooms as it is from Omega aficionados.
Well, that s probably a somehow different target audience... 😉
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jv91
·lol ok yea, the person who outfits their bathroom in peanuts gear is NOT going to drop $10k + on a watch
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speedolex
·I actually think you have a valid point here: the ST reservation did not require a deposit so the level of actual commitment during the reservation process was quite low. On the other hand, I have not seen on the OF many indicating that they might give up on their ST for another watch purchase, and based on your valid assumption that these watches are being sought after by the online WIS community, the sample behaviour of the OF community does indicate a trend towards not dropping the ST on the grey / pre-owned market. All speculation...and I do not have a crystal ball😀
Wow, I didn't realize that the ST selling out in hours wasn't really actual sales, just reservations. That certainly makes things interesting, clearly people can bail when the bills are due and that's good news for the OP who is looking to get one.
Either way, I don't think this matters much. We live in a world where we can get anything we want as long as we pay for it, I've been on a Rolex Ceramic Daytona waitlist since the day it came out, I could have one tomorrow if I pay a $3K premium and that's because you have a mix of people who bought them to flip at a profit and people who got bored and flipped them without taking a loss. These are luxuries, after all.
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Foo2rama
··Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can.Wow, I didn't realize that the ST selling out in hours wasn't really actual sales, just reservations. That certainly makes things interesting, clearly people can bail when the bills are due and that's good news for the OP who is looking to get one.
Either way, I don't think this matters much. We live in a world where we can get anything we want as long as we pay for it, I've been on a Rolex Ceramic Daytona waitlist since the day it came out, I could have one tomorrow if I pay a $3K premium and that's because you have a mix of people who bought them to flip at a profit and people who got bored and flipped them without taking a loss. These are luxuries, after all.
And you just contradicted yourself... but alas you don't see it.
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speedolex
·You state this as fact - do you have anything to back up this claim?
No, but I'd venture to guess that at least 20-30% of all Speedmaster Snoopy's sold went to Peanuts aficionado's. I don't think the millions of people who bought Mickey Mouse watches were Ingersoll fans.
I know a thing or two about marketing and licensing. The licensing deal, the publicity that followed, the window displays (above), you need to understand that Omega is trying to drive incremental bodies into their boutiques and their authorized dealerships. That's the reason for these LE's. So if you bought one because of your love of the space program, that's cool. But understand there are an even greater amount of Peanuts fans out there and they were driven to the Silver Snoopy too.
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