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A 105.003-65 SP?
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fzhu052
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michael e
·Thank you @fzhu052
I contacted fzhu052 some time ago when I saw a photo of his lovely watch above and saw it had all the hallmarks of a SP 003, crown, pushers and fat tail chronograph hand. After many weeks his watch was finally opened at service to reveal the SP engraving.
So three of the four known 105.003-65 SP watches are in the very close serial range of 249509xx.
This is no coincidence. These watches did indeed come from the Omega factory like this and were produced with the upgraded pushers and crown, also with the fat tail chronograph hand late in 105.003 production.
So we can say the 105.003-65 SP is a very rare and factory version after all 👍
I contacted fzhu052 some time ago when I saw a photo of his lovely watch above and saw it had all the hallmarks of a SP 003, crown, pushers and fat tail chronograph hand. After many weeks his watch was finally opened at service to reveal the SP engraving.
So three of the four known 105.003-65 SP watches are in the very close serial range of 249509xx.
This is no coincidence. These watches did indeed come from the Omega factory like this and were produced with the upgraded pushers and crown, also with the fat tail chronograph hand late in 105.003 production.
So we can say the 105.003-65 SP is a very rare and factory version after all 👍
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Davidt
·Great read. If this is true, it must have been a batch rather than a cut off point as my 105.003-65, serial 24,957xxx, produced Oct ‘67 doesn’t have the SP designation as has the ‘correct’ pushers, crown etc.
Obviously caveated by the fact Omega may not have taken serial number batches in sequential order.
Obviously caveated by the fact Omega may not have taken serial number batches in sequential order.
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M'Bob
·Haven’t looked at the inside back, but what do you think?
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mountainunder
·This thread reminded me of some questions I asked the dealer earlier when I was considering a purchase about the watch in the photo.
The answer was that the serial number was 25447xxx and the description on the inside of the back cover was 105.003-65SP.
I didn't buy the watch in the picture, so this is the only picture I have.
The answer was that the serial number was 25447xxx and the description on the inside of the back cover was 105.003-65SP.
I didn't buy the watch in the picture, so this is the only picture I have.
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Tu13alcane
·as an avid collector of 105.003 i have been offered what is described as 1 of only 3 in existence late 1968 105.003 SP. i am waiting for some better pictures but the case back looks like a standard 105.003 caseback and stamped SP.. Yet on the EOA there is no mention of this.
I know the pictures are bad but hopefully you can see the SP looks like it has been added afterwards.
Does anyone have a 145.003 SP with EOA and if so does it mention this SP , water protection upgrade
I know the pictures are bad but hopefully you can see the SP looks like it has been added afterwards.
Does anyone have a 145.003 SP with EOA and if so does it mention this SP , water protection upgrade
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masteroftime
·. . . i have been offered what is described as 1 of only 3 in existence late 1968 105.003 SP . . . .
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Tu13alcane
·it
it is a dealer and i have bought some very nice 105.003 from them in past and in previous sales they have been willing to negotiate price but on this one they are saying price is firm with no movement on price whatsoever!
this is an exact cut n paste from their website
Also representing a fascinating transitional phase for the Speedmaster, production of the 105.003 officially ceased in 1965, but Omega continued to refine the model in preparation for the approaching moon landing. This particular watch did not leave Switzerland until 1968 and, by that time, Omega had improved the water resistance of the pushers. As a result, it was fitted with the “Wide and Tall” pushers, an upgrade identifiable by the “SP” (for “Special Pushers”) on the inside of the case back. It is believed that only three watches exist with the reference 105.003 SP, fitted with their correct chronograph hand, of which this is one.
The watch is fitted with its original Singer dial, featuring an applied Omega logo. The tritium on the dial and hands has developed an even patina and has been well-preserved given the watch’s age. The subdials show slight “chocolating”, adding to the character of this timepiece.
The bezel is an original Omega “Dot Over 90” (DON), and along with the case and case back, is in very good condition. The Hippocampus is still visible on the case back, indicating no over-polishing or heavy wear. The case and bracelet remain in very good vintage condition, taking age into account.
The historically important and aesthetically pleasing calibre 321 movement has been tested and found to be running well, and as such the watch is supplied with a six-month warranty. It also comes with paperwork from a full service carried out by Simon Freese in 2020.
Also included are an Omega Extract from the Archives, an Omega booklet, a period correct Omega presentation box, and additional paperwork.
Not sure how somebody could validate that. Is it a dealer describing it as such?
this is an exact cut n paste from their website
Also representing a fascinating transitional phase for the Speedmaster, production of the 105.003 officially ceased in 1965, but Omega continued to refine the model in preparation for the approaching moon landing. This particular watch did not leave Switzerland until 1968 and, by that time, Omega had improved the water resistance of the pushers. As a result, it was fitted with the “Wide and Tall” pushers, an upgrade identifiable by the “SP” (for “Special Pushers”) on the inside of the case back. It is believed that only three watches exist with the reference 105.003 SP, fitted with their correct chronograph hand, of which this is one.
The watch is fitted with its original Singer dial, featuring an applied Omega logo. The tritium on the dial and hands has developed an even patina and has been well-preserved given the watch’s age. The subdials show slight “chocolating”, adding to the character of this timepiece.
The bezel is an original Omega “Dot Over 90” (DON), and along with the case and case back, is in very good condition. The Hippocampus is still visible on the case back, indicating no over-polishing or heavy wear. The case and bracelet remain in very good vintage condition, taking age into account.
The historically important and aesthetically pleasing calibre 321 movement has been tested and found to be running well, and as such the watch is supplied with a six-month warranty. It also comes with paperwork from a full service carried out by Simon Freese in 2020.
Also included are an Omega Extract from the Archives, an Omega booklet, a period correct Omega presentation box, and additional paperwork.
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Ron_W
·as an avid collector of 105.003 i have been offered what is described as 1 of only 3 in existence late 1968 105.003 SP. i am waiting for some better pictures but the case back looks like a standard 105.003 caseback and stamped SP.. Yet on the EOA there is no mention of this.
I know the pictures are bad but hopefully you can see the SP looks like it has been added afterwards.
Does anyone have a 145.003 SP with EOA and if so does it mention this SP , water protection upgrade
at your service, this 145.003 is listed on C24 right now ;
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Tu13alcane
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Ron_W
·And another thread with more information
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Ron_W
·does this listing have EOA ?
https://www.chrono24.nl/omega/speed...-rare-double-stamped-caseback--id41013071.htm
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masteroftime
·it
it is a dealer and i have bought some very nice 105.003 from them in past and in previous sales they have been willing to negotiate price but on this one they are saying price is firm with no movement on price whatsoever!
this is an exact cut n paste from their website
Also representing a fascinating transitional phase for the Speedmaster, production of the 105.003 officially ceased in 1965, but Omega continued to refine the model in preparation for the approaching moon landing. This particular watch did not leave Switzerland until 1968 and, by that time, Omega had improved the water resistance of the pushers. As a result, it was fitted with the “Wide and Tall” pushers, an upgrade identifiable by the “SP” (for “Special Pushers”) on the inside of the case back. It is believed that only three watches exist with the reference 105.003 SP, fitted with their correct chronograph hand, of which this is one.
The watch is fitted with its original Singer dial, featuring an applied Omega logo. The tritium on the dial and hands has developed an even patina and has been well-preserved given the watch’s age. The subdials show slight “chocolating”, adding to the character of this timepiece.
The bezel is an original Omega “Dot Over 90” (DON), and along with the case and case back, is in very good condition. The Hippocampus is still visible on the case back, indicating no over-polishing or heavy wear. The case and bracelet remain in very good vintage condition, taking age into account.
The historically important and aesthetically pleasing calibre 321 movement has been tested and found to be running well, and as such the watch is supplied with a six-month warranty. It also comes with paperwork from a full service carried out by Simon Freese in 2020.
Also included are an Omega Extract from the Archives, an Omega booklet, a period correct Omega presentation box, and additional paperwork.
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Tu13alcane
·No EoA mentioned but here is the link
https://www.chrono24.nl/omega/speed...-rare-double-stamped-caseback--id41013071.htm
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Tu13alcane
·Description reads as AI and puffery, in my opinion.
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Tu13alcane
·@Ron_W Thank you for the link, i replied with same message but the moderators blocked it, i assume as your message has an outside link.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...These all smell like service casebacks to me.... ESP the one posted today... color me skeptic, but there is a reason why they are not showing the differences that would appear on an sp...
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