2915-1 on Chronotrader.

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Tubber

·Feb 11, 2020

A 2915-1 surfaced on Chronotrader yesterday. I know less than nothing about these and wouldn't like to comment. No price is mentioned, just open to offers. No service history and it doesn't run. Just interested if anyone was prepared to comment on the authenticity. There would appear to be more than the occasional scam on Chronotrader these days.
The movement number looks like it may start 15148xxx which MWO states "probably some", so movement could be correct.
http://chronocentric.com/forums/chronotrader/index.cgi?page=1;md=read;id=117561

 

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JimJupiter

·Feb 11, 2020

Is this lume on the sub hands? I like these small customizations done in the past (if legít).

What wonders me most is the caseback and the "Speedmaster" text. Seems to big, allready touching the opening marks.

 

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Cuttysark

·Feb 11, 2020

The same person sells a crater box for 300$ ?? 😕
He knows the correct collector name of the box and he doesn't know the real price?
Maybe it's a scam.
Has the 2915 also a modern bezel and pushers?
The crown I'm sure it's modern.

 

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harrymai86

·Feb 11, 2020

It sounds like a scam to me. The format is very familiar

 

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Screwbacks

·Feb 11, 2020

i just made a private offer.😁

 

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Speedmasterfan88

·Feb 11, 2020

JimJupiter

Is this lume on the sub hands? I like these small customizations done in the past (if legít).

What wonders me most is the caseback and the "Speedmaster" text. Seems to big, allready touching the opening marks.

A seamonster Logo (also total off Center) on a 2915-1 caseback?!
As far as i‘m aware of there should be none. ( Edit: Type A2 2915-1 caseback with Seahorse Logo according to MWO, thanks to @Dash1 for pointing it out!)

Re: Speedmaster Text, here‘s a pic of a legit 2915-2 caseback , text is more centered between the caseback holes.

Cheers,

Max

Edited: Feb 11, 2020

 

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watchyouwant

·Feb 11, 2020

Nothing checks out here. Kind regards. Achim

 

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Karper

·Feb 11, 2020

watchyouwant

Nothing checks out here. Kind regards. Achim

Unfortunately it’s a scam. Seller said he is based in Norway. Then when I proposed a face to face all went quit. Asking 2,500 usd for this one seemed a bit off

 

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Tom Dick

·Feb 11, 2020

Been a while since I’ve seen this one doing the rounds, 3-4 years maybe......avoid it at all cost...... its so fake it should appear on an episode of botched

 

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KingCrouchy

·Feb 11, 2020

I completely avoid chronotrader at the moment as it seems flowded with scammers. I don't know if there a lack of security there or other reasons for it.

 

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JimJupiter

·Feb 11, 2020

KingCrouchy

I completely avoid chronotrader at the moment as it seems flowded with scammers. I don't know if there a lack of security there or other reasons for it.

lack of moderation 😉

 

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Dash1

·Feb 11, 2020

Speedmasterfan88

A seamonster Logo on a 2915-1 caseback?!
As far as i‘m aware of there should be none.
Cheers,
Max

A few do - see my avatar!

 

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Speedmasterfan88

·Feb 11, 2020

Dash1

A few do - see my avatar!

True! Also mentioned in MWO, haven’t checked my 2915-1 facts in a while.

But yours seem to be perfectly centered, unlike the fake shown above.

Cheers,

Max

 

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airansun

·Feb 11, 2020

Modern service dial, cosmetically altered.

A1 dial, from MWO:

 

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watchyouwant

·Mar 21, 2020

Dash1

A few do - see my avatar![/QUOTE

I doubt that. Not on 2915-1. In this case I doubt the info in the book. Kind regards. Achim

 

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OMEGuy

·Mar 21, 2020

Dash1

A few do - see my avatar!

I agree with you. At least I have seen a few over the years.

Edited: Mar 21, 2020

 

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guaranteed.rohu

·Apr 30, 2020

just my 2c, I've been scammed via chronotrader before - there's really not much recourse there in terms of the community, even from 'established' collectors - be careful!

 

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WYO_Watch

·Apr 30, 2020

guaranteed.rohu

I've been scammed via chronotrader

I’m starting to think you have bad luck... or was it another Icelander? 😝

 

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guaranteed.rohu

·May 1, 2020

WYO_Watch

I’m starting to think you have bad luck... or was it another Icelander? 😝

Haha nah it was years ago, not Icelandic - I think the seller, who is a somewhat established 'collector' based in slovenia or slovakia, Janez Grom (instagram vintage_kronos) was hoping I wouldn't notice the redial and he was just trying to flog the piece off. Once I pointed this out to him after the transaction, got total radio silence.

I got given a redial (I should've been more careful) and a movement on an omega seamaster cal 321 that basically didn't work at all. Cost about 1500 usd all up to source the correct dial, a whole bunch of new movement parts, and a full movement overhaul haha.

2 negative transactions out of about 40 or so in the past 4-5 years isn't too bad, but still pretty frustrating. You live and you learn! Gotta do your own due diligence even with 'established collectors'.

I posted a warning up on a few forums, and the guy finally contacted me(Janez Grom) threatening legal action because I was 'extorting him for additional money'. It's interesting how people try to save face when they're caught out. I try to steer clear of chronotrader now - I know a few others who have been scammed over the years then too.

Fake dial:



Corrected and fixed:

Edited: May 1, 2020