Won an eBay UG Polerouter - Need some Experts!

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You’re supposed to be saving for the speedie

😁You caught me! I’ve been eyeing a Polerouter for a good while now and a big birthday is coming up, so I talked the wife into letting me buy a reaonsably priced watch.

The Speedie is going to be a treat I get myself when I can get the hell out of engineering school! I hope I did well on this Polerouter... we’ll see when it gets here, I guess!
 
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You got infected lol good luck

You’re a wise man, @killer67 . I should take your advice and be more prudent saving for that Speedmaster. The problem is, I have the self-control of a four year old when it comes to vintage watches. The only thing that tempers me is the wrath of my wife....😎
 
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Does anyone know what size crown would go on a 20360-2? I'm using some google-fu to try and find out more info, but haven't seen anything yet. I did see this, but my main concern is that is says "waterproof" in the description and as far as I know only the Polerouter Sub had a screw down crown:
Looks like a nice honest 20360-2 reference to me. 👍
The crown should be the domed type, approx 5.25mm diameter with a matching stem tube.
Other Polerouter references have screwdown crowns (e.g. 869115, 869119) but the 20360 did not.
 
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A good watchmaker should be able to repair the hand. Good luck on your addition.
 
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Looks like a nice honest 20360-2 reference to me. 👍
The crown should be the domed type, approx 5.25mm diameter with a matching stem tube.
Other Polerouter references have screwdown crowns (e.g. 869115, 869119) but the 20360 did not.

Thank you. I figured it was 20360-2 because everything (except the crown) matches the example on that Polerouter website. I’ll keep an eye out of that crown, hopefully I can get one soon! Do you have any tips on finding a replacement?

A good watchmaker should be able to repair the hand. Good luck on your addition.

That’s what I figured, I didn’t think the hand was that big of a deal. I have a competent guy on my end who should be able to do a good job with this.

On another note, I wish there were a way to get these watches lumed with a vintage color. I personally wouldn’t mind a re-lumed watch if the color matched the old lume and was faithful to its vintage look. This may be sacrilege, but oh well...
 
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Thank you. I figured it was 20360-2 because everything (except the crown) matches the example on that Polerouter website. I’ll keep an eye out of that crown, hopefully I can get one soon! Do you have any tips on finding a replacement?



That’s what I figured, I didn’t think the hand was that big of a deal. I have a competent guy on my end who should be able to do a good job with this.

On another note, I wish there were a way to get these watches lumed with a vintage color. I personally wouldn’t mind a re-lumed watch if the color matched the old lume and was faithful to its vintage look. This may be sacrilege, but oh well...

you can get a good vintage relume color match by a professional, it’s not cheap but definitely worth it sometimes IMO
 
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Looks like a nice watch for about the right price. In my experience, ALL cal. 215 movements have rotor rubbing against the case back issues. Its a design flaw, but does not seem to impact the operation. Enjoy your watch, and when having it serviced, follow the mantra of "less is more." Don't polish, don't replace lume or hands, don't replace the crystal unless you really have to, etc. You will most likely never find a correct UG replacement crown, so don't sweat it. The unmarked one on the watch now looks fine. Just enjoy the watch!
 
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Looks like a nice watch for about the right price. In my experience, ALL cal. 215 movements have rotor rubbing against the case back issues. Its a design flaw, but does not seem to impact the operation. Enjoy your watch, and when having it serviced, follow the mantra of "less is more." Don't polish, don't replace lume or hands, don't replace the crystal unless you really have to, etc. You will most likely never find a correct UG replacement crown, so don't sweat it. The unmarked one on the watch now looks fine. Just enjoy the watch!

Thank you for your kind words. I'm definitely a "less is more" kind of guy, so no worries there. The only pressing thing I want done is to get than minute hand fixed. I'll definitely be enjoying this piece... big birthday coming up so this is "from" the wife 😀
 
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Watch came in today, I’ll post better pictures later:


Overall, I’m pleased with the watch. It’s obviously not a “perfect” example some vintage collectors may yearn for, but I’ll be happy wearing this Polerouter without the fear of f****** it up! ::psy::
 
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Watch came in today, I’ll post better pictures later:


Overall, I’m pleased with the watch. It’s obviously not a “perfect” example some vintage collectors may yearn for, but I’ll be happy wearing this Polerouter without the fear of f****** it up! ::psy::

Congrats. Looks good! 👍
 
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Okay guys, here are some better pictures. Used a Bergeon Jaxa to get the back open (very, very carefully!). After going out on a limb and purchasing this guy without movement pictures, I think I may have dodged a bullet. Let me know what y’all think:

 
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I don't see any small circles on the inside of the caseback.

That's always a good thing.
gatorcpa
 
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I don't see any small circles on the inside of the caseback.

That's always a good thing.
gatorcpa
After previously hearing about that issue, it was the first thing that was on my mind. Is there any way to prevent that? I will be servicing the watch, for what it’s worth.
 
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Is there any way to prevent that?
It's usually caused by a combination of worn rotor bushings and the absence of the proper gasket. Your watchmaker should be able to do the preventive maintenance.
gatorcpa
 
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It's usually caused by a combination of worn rotor bushings and the absence of the proper gasket. Your watchmaker should be do the preventive maintenance.
gatorcpa

Thanks @gatorcpa. I got a guy in G-ville that is pretty awesome. Hoping to get this old girl taken care of sooner than later...
 
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Now I see what you mean about the minute hand. I've never seen one broken like that. Still...IWLIA (I would leave it alone)! As you said, this is never going to be a super mint condition, top, top, top collector's piece. It is in the "honest" vintage watch category. Now, "honest" is a controversial topic. Those who think "honest" just means worn out will never be interested. Those (like me), who think "honest" is what vintage watch collecting is all about, are going to want the watch to be honest, as in, not sporting a replacement minute hand and carefully tinted lume to make it look slightly "better." In other words, mess with the minute hand, and the watch is going to appeal to a very narrow segment of WIS's indeed. The minute hand lume is perfectly matched to the hour hand and the lume dots. How about this?: just leave this one alone except for a movement service, and set yourself a goal to eventually acquire a minty one of the same model and color scheme some time down the road. Of course, the most important person to please is you, so you need to do what makes you happy! (If you change the minute hand, keep the original one with the watch, and then you can always go back.) On another note, the movement looks like it is in truly remarkable condition--better than the rest of the watch! Congratulations!
 
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Now I see what you mean about the minute hand. I've never seen one broken like that. Still...IWLIA (I would leave it alone)! As you said, this is never going to be a super mint condition, top, top, top collector's piece. It is in the "honest" vintage watch category. Now, "honest" is a controversial topic. Those who think "honest" just means worn out will never be interested. Those (like me), who think "honest" is what vintage watch collecting is all about, are going to want the watch to be honest, as in, not sporting a replacement minute hand and carefully tinted lume to make it look slightly "better." In other words, mess with the minute hand, and the watch is going to appeal to a very narrow segment of WIS's indeed. The minute hand lume is perfectly matched to the hour hand and the lume dots. How about this?: just leave this one alone except for a movement service, and set yourself a goal to eventually acquire a minty one of the same model and color scheme some time down the road. Of course, the most important person to please is you, so you need to do what makes you happy! (If you change the minute hand, keep the original one with the watch, and then you can always go back.) On another note, the movement looks like it is in truly remarkable condition--better than the rest of the watch! Congratulations!

Thanks for the tips! How much do you think would be a good price for it? I paid $680, which I thought was a fair price. I would expect much above that if it was in really good condition. I also wanted an “honest” watch so I wouldn’t be afraid to wear it!
 
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Looks like an honest and after all good looking Polerouter to me.
Original dial is definitely a plus not so common on these.
I don't think you overpaid it.
A nice watch I would gladly wear, well done 😉
 
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Thanks for the tips! How much do you think would be a good price for it? I paid $680, which I thought was a fair price. I would expect much above that if it was in really good condition. I also wanted an “honest” watch so I wouldn’t be afraid to wear it!
I agree that that's the right price. I wouldn't have paid a dollar more. Five or six years ago it would have been about $200, but that was then!