WoK Silver Dialed Pre-Professional Speedmaster

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these kind of proto Daytonas fetch crazy prices. interesting to see how the market appreciated these kind of speedmaster examples. I think its cool but not sure like 20-30k cool
I think it's certainly a noteworthy find, even if it was a loose dial. The case is beat to hell, which is a little disappointing since it's essentially a parts watch. Would think that the owner would try to source as nice of an Ed case as possible.

With all that said, even in a pandemic-affected global macro environment, I wouldn't be surprised if it hits the low-end of the range quite easily. You will never meet another person on the street with that combination...
 
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I was expecting it to be an attractive combination but I’m underwhelmed by the look. The hand choice definitely doesn’t appeal to me. I’d value as a custom watch, below a nice original example. I’m sure it’ll go for big bucks nevertheless. I’d be very interested to know what the speedmaster experts value it at.
 
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I’m no expert, but I value my beautifully clean .002 more. And looks like I guessed the reference correctly ::psy::::psy::::psy::
 
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"These dials were discovered many years ago by the vendor solely as dials with their batch reference sticker applied on the back and no dial feet. They are presented today fitted to the correct watches from the period."

Translates as:

"These are fantasy put togethers, and their value should be no more than that of the correct reference, but without correct dial or hands. However, we're hopefully that some utter mug will blow his financial load all over his bidding paddle."
 
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Translates as:

"These are fantasy put togethers, and their value should be no more than that of the correct reference, but without correct dial or hands. However, we're hopefully that some utter mug will blow his financial load all over his bidding paddle."

Well, if the dials can be proven to be genuine tests from the period, there's precedence for them having some value in watches. See: White-dialled Heuer Autavia 2446Cs, which were never sold; 2446 and 3646 Tachy dial models which were either never sold or were dealer options, depending on who you ask, etc. It certainly helps that TAG still have a catalog of examples of each old production and test dial they considered, so they can be understood to be genuine. We'll see about these.... I dunno.
 
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Well, if the dials can be proven to be genuine tests from the period, there's precedence for them having some value in watches. See: White-dialled Heuer Autavia 2446Cs, which were never sold; 2446 and 3646 Tachy dial models which were either never sold or were dealer options, depending on who you ask, etc. It certainly helps that TAG still have a catalog of examples of each old production and test dial they considered, so they can be understood to be genuine. We'll see about these.... I dunno.

That's a lot of "if". 😉
 
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I mean the dial is probably a genuine test dial - it's exceedingly well done if it isn't from looking at the text on it. But it can never be anything more than VAP. I mean maybe someone would assign a REALLY high value to this one off dial, given the age, etc. But what is really high? $10K? $20k? Everything else is just parts around it, and the case they stuck it in is pretty ratty, and the DON is far from the best. Not paring this dial with the best case and bezel you could possibly find doesn't really express that high of a level of confidence in its overall value.
 
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....the case they stuck it in is pretty ratty, and the DON is far from the best. Not paring this dial with the best case and bezel you could possibly find doesn't really express that high of a level of confidence in its overall value.
I'll wager you $5 someone will do just that when they've bought it.... give it 3 months and it's back on sale.... but shinier.
 
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I'll wager you $5 someone will do just that when they've bought it.... give it 3 months and it's back on sale.... but shinier.

That's why we post photographs here and the files are hosted on OF servers. Once seen and filed on OF, there will be references against any possible future alterations 😉
 
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Does this mean that the blue dialed ones were also made up? Has anyone ever got an extract stating blue or grey dial? I just love this one (photo: themasterofspeed)
 
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That's a lot of "if". 😉

It is, but then so were lots of now-valuable watches. I'm not saying it's a buy at the premium Phillips expects, but I'm also just gonna chill on the sidelines and see if more research comes out over the next couple years. Whoever's bidding at Phillips ought to know that, but then most bidders there aren't really there just to buy a watch.
 
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Well there were the white dial railmasters...
 
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So the Black H, M, & running seconds hands are part of the assembler's "Fantasy Build"... 😵‍💫
Parts watches.
Not interesting IMO.

 
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I like the look but at the end of the day you are paying for a dial and who knows how resealable it will be down the line
 
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yep -- just a few dials with no feet, wrapped in a bunch of ed white and 2998 parts for presentation and to pump up the price. hard pass.
 
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It’s odd looking. Almost looks like a modern take on a vintage Speedy. The fact that it’s a put-together watch makes it seem cheap.
 
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The colour scheme of the hands is the same as the racing dials if I'm not mistaken... That is, the time telling hands are different colour from the chrono hands...
 
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The colour scheme of the hands is the same as the racing dials if I'm not mistaken... That is, the time telling hands are different colour from the chrono hands...

Correct. To each their own, but I like the look of the watch. The unique dial will very likely get bidders excited. What remains uncertain is how much the put together aspect and sub-par Ed white hardware will detract them. Still, I wouldn't be surprised to see this sell for well over $20k.
 
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The white dial looks quite nice. Even if it is a put together watch I believe it will still attract bidders for its unique characteristic.
 
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Possibly unique and then explain that the seller just installed a dial which was never supposed to be used as a dial. What a joke. Same kind of joke as these Daytona's with test dials. Test as in used during chronometer tests.