When should you just buy it already?

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Spend $5k on a great 145.022-71 with killer patina...if you own one, it better have some soul!

In all seriousness, if I were to have one watch it would be a Rolex Sub or GMT, and then I would think about a Speedy later down the road.
+1 If you are going to have one watch, a Sub or GMT Master II are going to be dependable, durable and versatile companions. This is especially true if you lead an active life.
 
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It really does. I'm still particular about NOS condition, but I'm certainly keeping my eye on the watches that pop up here.
Why? You buying a watch to wear...it is going to be character within a few weeks.

Please don't buy modern if you are going for one watch...get something with patina.
 
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Why? You buying a watch to wear...it is going to be character within a few weeks.

Please don't buy modern if you are going for one watch...get something with patina.

I'd like the patina to be my own. I know that's the minority opinion here, but getting something with a patina already feels like cheating. I plan to watch my patina develop slowly over time, knowing each ding, scratch, and fade reflects my history. Why would you prefer to carry around somebody else's history?
 
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If you’ve set a goal, achieved it and that achievement should result in a watch purchase (an incentive for yourself), and you have the money readily available - go buy the watch. You will probably always look at that watch for the future and see it as a personal reminder of that big win.
 
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I'd like the patina to be my own. I know that's the minority opinion here ...

Then you better invent a time machine and jump back a minimum of 20 years to the tritium days, as superluminova (i.e. what you get on your watch these days) has not been seen to patinate ... and most likely wont do it anytime soon (whilst most of us here are still alive or young enough to still see our watches) ...

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However, I assume that many of you had conflicts the first time you spent $5k on a watch, and dealt with similar questions

Yes, (and to answer your 'at what point' question) spending that cash and being so unbelievably happy with your purchase and digging further back for more patina (whilst consistently maintaining your income) is what turns on the switch that makes the multiples-of-$5k decisions taken in a heart-beat 😀

Welcome and good luck...would love to hear your own opinion on your OP in 6 months time after buying your first Speedy or Roley ...
 
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Then you better invent a time machine and jump back a minimum of 20 years to the tritium days, as superluminova (i.e. what you get on your watch these days) has not been seen to patinate ... and most likely wont do it anytime soon (whilst most of us here are still alive or young enough to still see our watches) ...



Yes, (and to answer your 'at what point' question) spending that cash and being so unbelievably happy with your purchase and digging further back for more patina (whilst consistently maintaining your income) is what turns on the switch that makes the multiples-of-$5k decisions taken in a heart-beat 😀

Welcome and good luck...would love to hear your own opinion on your OP in 6 months time after buying your first Speedy or Roley ...
If you want patina to your own lifestyle, and a piece that will not break the bank but will gain you kudos. A piece that has heritage as well as modern attributes then you need look no further than the Tudor a Heritage Black Bay Bronze.... Job done!
 
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I'd like the patina to be my own. I know that's the minority opinion here, but getting something with a patina already feels like cheating. I plan to watch my patina develop slowly over time, knowing each ding, scratch, and fade reflects my history. Why would you prefer to carry around somebody else's history?
Buy a new one, and you will never get lume patina.
 
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As someone that owned a Sub for many years I'm going to go against popular opinion, and say that at least for me, I didn't like it as a daily wear watch. It was high quality, beautiful, and kept great time. To me it was a watch that begged to be noticed, and like the silhouette of a Porsche 911, most folks recognize it for what it is. For me it came across as too much of wanting to make a statement, or get attention. I can't fault the watch itself, it's stood the test of time for a reason. My personal tastes run more towards understated elegance, but obviously throngs of folks love the Sub and many long to own one. Mine was purchased as a celebration of a milestone, but I never got very attached to it. I ended up donating it to a children's charity for a fundraiser.
 
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Welcome and good luck...would love to hear your own opinion on your OP in 6 months time after buying your first Speedy or Roley ...

I'll definitely update here once I make the purchase!

Buy a new one, and you will never get lume patina.

Its not that I don't find faded lume or a tropical face exceedingly beautiful, it's just that I'm okay without it. And who knows what characteristic of contemporary watches will be desirable in 20, 30 years. I think it'll be exciting to find out, knowing my watch has been with me for that journey. And if none are, I'm okay with that too. I'm not buying for collective regard, just my own.
 
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I'll definitely update here once I make the purchase!



Its not that I don't find faded lume or a tropical face exceedingly beautiful, it's just that I'm okay without it. And who knows what characteristic of contemporary watches will be desirable in 20, 30 years. I think it'll be exciting to find out, knowing my watch has been with me for that journey. And if none are, I'm okay with that too. I'm not buying for collective regard, just my own.
Since you are in for the whole experience, go to an AD and pay full freight...that will be the only way you are happy.

Best of luck...and go do it already!
 
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Sounds like you should:

1. Go to an AD and pay up. You'll get the whole experience, glass of champers, a lot of "suits you sir".
2. Go grey market and get a new modern piece, save a few buck, but no schmoozing
3. Find a vintage piece in NOS. Wear it, batter it, make it no longer NOS.

From what you've said so far I doubt you will be satisfied with a vintage watch as you want to add your own marks
 
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Sounds like you should:

1. Go to an AD and pay up. You'll get the whole experience, glass of champers, a lot of "suits you sir".
2. Go grey market and get a new modern piece, save a few buck, but no schmoozing
3. Find a vintage piece in NOS. Wear it, batter it, make it no longer NOS.

From what you've said so far I doubt you will be satisfied with a vintage watch as you want to add your own marks

Most likely 2 or 3. Don't need the schmoozing.

Have you bought it yet?

Nope, but on the hunt for a NOS 3572.50.
 
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1. Buy vintage
2. Buy something you like and want to wear
3. and after you put on a wear a Speedmaster you will not want to wear anything else
I'm giving my oldest son a 71 Speedmaster for his 30th birthday on the 22nd
 
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Honestly ... rewarding myself for big wins was how I got started. Love them bonuses. Life is short. If you can spare the cash ... DO IT!
 
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Honestly ... rewarding myself for big wins was how I got started. Love them bonuses. Life is short. If you can spare the cash ... DO IT!
Likewise. It makes the process easier, you of course enjoy the watch when you wear it, but it also reminds you of good achievements. Whether doing that by saving up or by bonus, it's a great association for a great watch
 
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or save for an upcoming LE - Limited Edition Apollo 11 - 50th anniversary 😗
 
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We all started out with one watch, if you are on these boards before you purchase your first you are already in trouble.

I recommend a new one from a trusted seller here. Save some money toward your next watch. 😉
 
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@CSM .....Love the Pentax 6x7, you are using as an avatar !!

One of my earliest mentors in photography, was...Jorge Lewinski, a very talented, & warmly generous, 'Magnum Agency' Photographer

Guardian Obituary here : https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2008/feb/13/2

He had, & used, a full Pentax 6x7 kit......Stunning quality of build, & pin sharp lenses

Good luck finding your watch, & keep us posted, please ?
 
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Many people have offered their opinions, so let me throw in my two penn'th:

You buy whatever you want, whenever you want and spend however much you want. So long as you're comfortable, that's all that matters.

However, some have mentioned vintage watches. The best time to buy a vintage watch is the moment you see it. Wait for a good one or a desirable one and it will either have sold already or the price will have gone up. Regardless of whether you believe we're in a bubble or not, if you don't buy it today it will cost you more tomorrow.

Just one more thing to add: buy the watch for you. I don't care how many enablers are on here or what Hodinkee is telling the 0.01% will be the next big thing or about that shiny article you saw in the airline magazine while your mind was trying to remember which time zone it has just left or is trying to get to: no-one is going to notice your watch. OK, a couple of people will. But fewer will comment on it. You're not going to strike up a friendship at the bar or airport lounge because you're wearing a gilt-gloss "Bart Simpson". Just wear what you enjoy for yourself. Once or twice a year, someone will compliment you on your wrist candy. You too can have that momentary thought of " am I about to be mugged?" While checking their wrist and deciding whether or not to like their TAG ... oh, wait, that's a Monnin, isn't it?

Point being, there are watch nerds out there but not as many as you would imagine if you took the readership of OF or Hodinkee as your reference. So, buy what makes you smile; buy them for the reasons that make sense to you; unless you're buying vintage, work the best deal for you; but, if you do want vintage, buy them when you see them. If you're too broke to spend, don't look.