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What do you think about this Constellation pie pan 168005, cal 564 on ebay
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chipsotoole
·Am I the only one here who finds it rather pricey? No-one seems to be saying it out loud....
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersIt’s a good looking watch but as others have said significantly overpriced IMHO.
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Am I the only one here who finds it rather pricey? No-one seems to be saying it out loud....
Was that not loud enough ?😉
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hoipolloi
·24 mil is the turning point.
Lots of 561's was swapped by 564's from cheaper C cases with high serial #.
Lots of 561's was swapped by 564's from cheaper C cases with high serial #.
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers24 mil is the turning point.
I think I asked for clarification of '24mil' before and it was concluded that onyx inserts (at least) appeared throughout the 24 millions.
which is why I was surprised that the OPs 24,xxx, 14k, Connie had painted inserts
However, if there was a transition phase from onyx to paint through the 24Ms (as @bart thought you had suggested) that would explain it
I guess that an equally plausible explanation would be that (given we don't know the serial no. other than 24m) the movt sat in a box for a while and was paired with a 'new' sans-onyx dial.
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ConElPueblo
·24 mil is the turning point.
Lots of 561's was swapped by 564's from cheaper C cases with high serial #.
Funny how three C-cased 564 within 70 serial numbers found their way into this sort of conversion in the case I describe... 😉
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Andy K
·Here's the link to the original debate on this topic: https://omegaforums.net/threads/onyx-or-black-paint-markers-on-vintage-constellations.31354/
I had that bookmarked from last year when I was researching the 168.005 I bought from @TNTwatch. Mine BTW is a 25 mill with economized black paint 😁, but that thread is what let me know it was typical for the SN.
I had that bookmarked from last year when I was researching the 168.005 I bought from @TNTwatch. Mine BTW is a 25 mill with economized black paint 😁, but that thread is what let me know it was typical for the SN.
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Waltesefalcon
·Great looking watch but too rich for my blood.
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hoipolloi
·Funny how three C-cased 564 within 70 serial numbers found their way into this sort of conversion in the case I describe... 😉
They were from cheaper C cases. The guys preferred 564's to 561's.
That is why I never buy 168.005 black onyx inserts powered by a late 564 (25 mil up).
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ConElPueblo
·Like I said.
They were from cheaper C cases. The guys preferred 564's to 561's.
That is why I never buy 168.005 black onyx inserts powered by a late 564 (25 mil up).
So... Three C-cased calibers 564s within 70 numbers of each other? All transplanted into yellow gold cap Constellations of the same reference? A lot of coincidences.
That's not to say that you couldn't be right - I certainly flag late serial Constellations w/ onyx inserts too, but only as a marker of something possibly being awry, not anything definitive.
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hoipolloi
·Pictures or they never exist.
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dk_rd
·I think I asked for clarification of '24mil' before and it was concluded that onyx inserts (at least) appeared throughout the 24 millions.
which is why I was surprised that the OPs 24,xxx, 14k, Connie had painted inserts
However, if there was a transition phase from onyx to paint through the 24Ms (as @bart thought you had suggested) that would explain it
I guess that an equally plausible explanation would be that (given we don't know the serial no. other than 24m) the movt sat in a box for a while and was paired with a 'new' sans-onyx dial.
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersAccording to the dealer the serial number is 24433114
As per the comments above, there is nothing to prove/disprove that the watch is all correct.
However, the watch is significantly over priced as whilst the dial is very good, the case is only ‘nice’ as it has seen some polishing.
I would expect an absolutely mint 14k version to be sub 3000euro and this example to be sub 2,500.
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dk_rd
·I promised to tell what happened: Nothing. I tried to contact the dealer to check how much he could reduce the price. No reply. Now the watch has disappeared from eBay. But again thanks for the support.
