Vaccinated roll-call

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Covid aside, would you say the same to those who use up valuable hospital resources due to, for example complications arising from obesity, std’s or smoking? These can be prevented to a very high degree or are certain preventable diseases ok to spend resources on?
That`s not the question with Covid in mind when to much people getting really serious sick and get to hospital at the same time consuming all the hospitals resources and up in that case doctors have to make a choice on peoples live and they will sort out they who have the lowest chances to recover mainly the oldest and them with most serious illnesses.
This will not happen with smokers or addicts.

The people who will be sorted out could be your parents no funny thing just think about it.
 
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I went with science.
I Hope they did their homework.
Plus I can be in the office without a mask.
 
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Two times Astra, in bed with Covid for the last week. Get vaccinated, but don‘t assume full protection, stay careful. Thought I was done with it myself.
 
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Two times Astra, in bed with Covid for the last week. Get vaccinated, but don‘t assume full protection, stay careful. Thought I was done with it myself.

Sorry to hear this. Hope it doesn't get too bad for you!
 
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Sorry to hear this. Hope it doesn't get too bad for you!
Thanks for the good wishes, was pretty mild, low fever and sore throat. Am pretty sure that‘s due to the vaccine.
 
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Thanks for the good wishes, was pretty mild, low fever and sore throat. Am pretty sure that‘s due to the vaccine.
Glad you only have mild symptoms. Do you know which variant you have?
 
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Thanks for the good wishes, was pretty mild, low fever and sore throat. Am pretty sure that‘s due to the vaccine.

vaccine doing its job: prevent/ reduce severe infections. BUT not infections per se.
Best wishes
 
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No, NHS PCR test doesn’t state this. But would be surprised if it wasn’t δ.
 
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Second pfizer shot today, making use of the mission time alarm set to 15 min.😁

This watch was the one for my first shot.


(Can someone spot the easter eggs?)😉
 
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Just an update.... Recall my wife is working at Pentagon on multidisciplinary COVID task force.

In US, 99% of all current COVID deaths are in unvaccinated people.

83% of all new cases are Delta variant.

Some info on Delta....about 3x more transmissable than original COVID, but less severe effects, and symptoms more similar to flu(less cough, more congestion)

 
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Some info on Delta....about 3x more transmissable than original COVID, but less severe effects, and symptoms more similar to flu(less cough, more congestion)

When you say less severe effects, where does this data come from? I know the symptoms are different, but all the information I've seen indicates that the Delta variant is at least as severe as the Alpha, or more severe (study from Scotland and one from Yale).
 
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Just got my second AZ jab 2 days ago. Almost no side effect except sleepiness and a bit sore where they put the needle in.

Really glad to have full coverage against new Delta variant surge........... I know it is not 100% protection .... but ~60-70% is much better than only ~30% provided by 1st dose.........
 
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So I was going to stop posting updates as it doesn't seem to be very interesting anymore.

But with the Delta variant, a whole new set of analyses are being done by the US Govt and tons more data being presented.

Of particular note is the Delta variant situation in Massachusetts which led to the new mask mandate here in the US (for federal and military, states are advised to follow but not compelled). My wife is working on this case as an example to help prevent the same from occurring on military bases.

It is estimated that 70% of people in that region(Massachusetts) are vaccinated.

A quick summary, tens of thousands of vacationers descended on Cape Cod Massachusetts during July for vacation as well as for various festivals being run there. 469 cases confirmed in first two weeks of July(of these, estd 90% Delta variant), 74% being in vaccinated people. Given the majority of population are vaccinated, and given the # of vaccinated presenting with COVID symptoms, the theory is that vaccinated people may carry as much viral load if contracted, as unvaccinated. So therefore the possibility to be as contagious as unvaccinated, and therefore as much a risk to those that are unvaccinated. Resulting in the new mask mandate. This theory does not address the SEVERITY, which is far far less in vaccinated vs unvaccinated. It is largely based on the pure risk to unvaccinated people.

As of July 30, only 5 of those 469 were hospitalized, and no deaths. 3 of the 5 hospitalized had multiple underlying conditions.

If the vaccine had not existed, it is estimated it would have been ~45 hospitalized and potentially 10 deaths.

Further analysis is being done on the impact of the Delta variant vs competing variants(there are over 200), but it does appear that Delta variant has more success for breakthrough than other types at the moment.

Keep in mind these numbers are somewhat fuzzy, as the people in this vacation region are highly transient(trips of just a few days). Its what made this case study more difficult for the CDC to analyze clearly.

My Take: The vaccines appear to be working as they should. Not perfectly(as nothing is), but working. Remember that the vaccine does not prevent you from contracting the SARS-COV-2 Virus, it's purpose is to lessen the chance of developing the condition of COVID, and furthermore lessening the severity of COVID should it present. Which was the result in this case.

Hope this is interesting....
 
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So I was going to stop posting updates as it doesn't seem to be very interesting anymore.

But with the Delta variant, a whole new set of analyses are being done by the US Govt and tons more data being presented.

Of particular note is the Delta variant situation in Massachusetts which led to the new mask mandate here in the US (for federal and military, states are advised to follow but not compelled). My wife is working on this case as an example to help prevent the same from occurring on military bases.

It is estimated that 70% of people in that region(Massachusetts) are vaccinated.

A quick summary, tens of thousands of vacationers descended on Cape Cod Massachusetts during July for vacation as well as for various festivals being run there. 469 cases confirmed in first two weeks of July(of these, estd 90% Delta variant), 74% being in vaccinated people. Given the majority of population are vaccinated, and given the # of vaccinated presenting with COVID symptoms, the theory is that vaccinated people may carry as much viral load if contracted, as unvaccinated. So therefore the possibility to be as contagious as unvaccinated, and therefore as much a risk to those that are unvaccinated. Resulting in the new mask mandate. This theory does not address the SEVERITY, which is far far less in vaccinated vs unvaccinated. It is largely based on the pure risk to unvaccinated people.

As of July 30, only 5 of those 469 were hospitalized, and no deaths. 3 of the 5 hospitalized had multiple underlying conditions.

If the vaccine had not existed, it is estimated it would have been ~45 hospitalized and potentially 10 deaths.

Further analysis is being done on the impact of the Delta variant vs competing variants(there are over 200), but it does appear that Delta variant has more success for breakthrough than other types at the moment.

Keep in mind these numbers are somewhat fuzzy, as the people in this vacation region are highly transient(trips of just a few days). Its what made this case study more difficult for the CDC to analyze clearly.

My Take: The vaccines appear to be working as they should. Not perfectly(as nothing is), but working. Remember that the vaccine does not prevent you from contracting the SARS-COV-2 Virus, it's purpose is to lessen the chance of developing the condition of COVID, and furthermore lessening the severity of COVID should it present. Which was the result in this case.

Hope this is interesting....
Very interesting and helpful. Thanks for posting.
 
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We got ours (my wife and I as well as most of my immediate family) back in the March/April timeframe, no one got hit hard with side effects besides cold symptoms for 12-24 hours.

My moms husband went to his sons bachelor party this past weekend and 7/12 guys ended up positive including him and now my mom. He is already recovering, mom got it a bit harder with chest congestion, her doctor sent her for outpatient monoclonal antibody treatment today since she is in a high risk category. Assuming without her being vaccinated should would probably be in the hospital
 
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New mask mandate starting up again here for indoor businesses, even if vaccinated. Just canceled two trips, one in September to Indianapolis area and one to Albuquerque area in October. Both high risk and spreading areas. My daughter hopefull can still start her junior year in college in September with in person classes. Who knows.

I get that I am selfish and should be concerned about people getting hospitalized. BUT I thought we were over the hump. It's really really hard not to be angry about the people who won't get vaccinated.

Agree with suggestions that if any person has the opportunity to get vaccinated and chooses not to, then no insurance coverage for any covid related costs should they get sick. What will work to get people vaccinated short of holding them down? Maybe the risk of bankruptcy?

I'm losing it.
 
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IMHO the reason for some people to not get vaccinated is that they are to lazy or fear `bout things they don`t understand.
Then there is another group that dont get ANY vaccine eather out of personal or religious reasons.

I believe the main reason is that in our western civilization we dont face serious threats that kill our kids everyday for a long time now and we forget how dangerous live can be.
I remember that interview of some random Afrikan women in a very poor village and they asked her to be vaccinated or not and she simply dont understand the question `cause she lost four children to some deceases so she get every vaccine that she can get for her childs and herself.
 
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Remember that the vaccine does not prevent you from contracting the SARS-COV-2 Virus, it's purpose is to lessen the chance of developing the condition of COVID, and furthermore lessening the severity of COVID should it present.

This is a crucial point, yet a dangerously large percentage of the population does not understand it. Much of the spreading at this point is the result of vaccinated people behaving unsafely, as they are less likely to show symptoms, and many therefore falsely assume that they are "safe" around other people. Obviously there are also unvaccinated people who are behaving unsafely, but the unvaccinated are more likely to show symptoms, which have the effect of naturally curbing unsafe behavior.

I'm not arguing against vaccines, but this is just one illustration of why the binary vaccinated=good, unvaccinated=bad meme is overly simplistic, if not misleading.