"US Sales only" - ?

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You sending it via private jet? I just shipped over 10 watches in a fairly heavy box to England from Connecticut and it was around $26 via USPS.
I know!! I sent a similar package to another member back in April and it was $18! The postal worker (who I know well and she’s very nice) said it was the only option her computer would allow- and the system changes weekly.
On a slight tangent- the postal service has been amazingly efficient and fast the last week or so- like all the problems of the last 6 months magically went away....hmmm
 
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Watch for sale to gender neutral Libertarians who practice Jainism must live within the area I’m thinking of right now, 10 bucks. Please use pics as description no returns, thanks
 
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I know!! I sent a similar package to another member back in April and it was $18! The postal worker (who I know well and she’s very nice) said it was the only option her computer would allow- and the system changes weekly.
On a slight tangent- the postal service has been amazingly efficient and fast the last week or so- like all the problems of the last 6 months magically went away....hmmm
On a different tangent it’s actually worse here now, the mail that it is
 
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On a slight tangent- the postal service has been amazingly efficient and fast the last week or so- like all the problems of the last 6 months magically went away....hmmm

I'm sure that is thanks to the outgoing administration trying to pitch in and fix all it can to ensure a smooth transition come January 20th.

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I'm sure that is thanks to the outgoing administration trying to pitch in and fix all it can to ensure a smooth transition come January 20th.

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I just sprayed coffee all over my computer screen. Worth it. 😀
 
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Maybe if you are shipping sub $1k watches you can afford to send with no insurance, but what about $5k-10k+ transactions, and many Omega LE's now are between $5k and $10k, and many come with big, heavy, bulky boxes. I'm not about to rock up to the USPS counter and send an expensive watch in a large, heavy box to some foreign country and hope it gets there with little insurance coverage.

I recently sent a 17 lb parcel of three watches ($25k total) to a buyer here in the US with prepaid FedEx overnight delivery. Somehow the box disappeared off the tracking for a day before it was delivered a day late. That was nerve racking enough, and it had insurance. I'd never send send a parcel like that to Timbuktu and hope for the best.
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I was all in but he changed it to a Gruen so I’m out, sorry. By the way I see some nostrils Flared while typing so I need to break out hairy, just for safety reasons

Do you have to be told the rules again. No cats until after page 3. This is a written warning this time....
 
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I've sold several watches here over the years, I always include free shipping as it seems petty to ask for $100 for shipping on top of $10k+ watch. I'll stipulate "free anywhere in North America, buyers outside North America will need to pay for shipping" I do that because the one time I don't do it the buyer will be from Ulan Bator and shipping there fully insured will be $800 (ok, I'm making that up, but you get the point). If the buyer turns out to be from somewhere like western Europe, then I'll let them know I'll cover the shipping in the end. I do prefer North American buyers though, I can ship overnight priority fully insured and it always gets to the buyer the next day so much less risk of getting lost somewhere during shipping.
 
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Out of area customs paperwork can be a hassle, so its a cost-benefit calculation dependent on the value of what is being sold.

I don’t have a problem sending outside the U.K./EU, that might change after Brexit though! I try to use an end-end shipper (ie the same company) rather than someone who passes it off to a different local deliverer, and always point out that the buyer is responsible for local import costs/taxes. I use Secursus, no problems yet, but I guess time will tell. I can see that returns and import taxes for returns could be a problem, if the buyer doesn’t fill in the paperwork correctly when returning, but again no problems yet. On eBay, I mostly use Ebays GSP - it’s expensive but also tends to put off the dodgier buyer..
 
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I can comment on this from an "EU sales only perspective"

1. Shipping outside of the EU is insanely expensive where I live (not usually a problem)
2. Customs mandates that you describe exactly what is inside of the parcel (not very nice)
The parcel will be opened and if the contents are not as described it will not get shipped.
3. I need to fill out 5 papers in which I must declare a lower value than that of what I am shipping( Which I do not like), Must provide a photo of my ID(not a problem, perfectly understandable) and a declaration that states there is nothing dangerous inside( again, not a problem)
4. Most shipping companies run away from insuring parcels that get sent out of the EU because of crappy customs.

That's what you get when you live in a third world country, but eh, it could have been worse. I am jealous of people who can ship internationally without such hassle.😁
 
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Do you have to be told the rules again. No cats until after page 3. This is a written warning this time....
Well I’ll talk to hairy about her issues with not following the rules but it’s hard to train cats
 
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Ok, but it is the same for us Europeans. When we ship to US we have to fill in a Customs declaration too.

I always thought that "US Sales only" mean "CONUS only" like people would not like the watch to travel by air or something..
I’ve bought lots of watches in the EU. I’ve never had an issue. Know why? Courier, Insured, Fed Ex or DHL. No bullshit about value. I was fine paying the tariff. Both Fedex and DHL do a good job clearing customs (Fedex is better) When I do get round to selling, that will be my template. If a buyer wants to do otherwise, we are not doing business.
 
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When I do get round to selling, that will be my template. If a buyer wants to do otherwise, we are not doing business.

Still teasing us with these "someday I'll sell a watch" comments, I see. 😉
 
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Still teasing us with these "someday I'll sell a watch" comments, I see. 😉
I’m working myself up to it. It competes with too many other things going on in my life right now and I get distracted. I should change my handle to Ulackfocus.
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I’ve bought lots of watches in the EU. I’ve never had an issue. Know why? Courier, Insured, Fed Ex or DHL. No bullshit about value. I was fine paying the tariff. Both Fedex and DHL do a good job clearing customs (Fedex is better) When I do get round to selling, that will be my template. If a buyer wants to do otherwise, we are not doing business.
I just shipped a $40k piece of gear to be serviced via FedEx yesterday from DC to NYC- cost was $410. I could have driven it there and back for less in gas and tolls and be guaranteed signature whereas I am lucky if FedEx even rings the bell before they dump it on the sidewalk.
I did just buy a $400 watch from Italy and they had a $50 shipping cost. I balked at first but really wanted the watch. Turns out the seller shipped DHL- picked up on Monday, delivered Thursday- can’t ask for better than that!
 
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Thanks all for sharing your insights... very enlighting. There doesn't seem to be any other factual barrier to shipping abroad from the US than there is to shipping abroad from any other country in the world, in the end.

Insurance, paperworks, #of touchpoints, complexity of enrolling a carrier instead of the (generally inept regardless of the country 😁 ) national postal service, travel time, tax/import/duties discussions with possible buyer, address format, FX (I can only recommend Transferwise, free advertisement 😁) ...

... all these will happen from pretty much any country when shipping abroad.

My key takeout is that the most compelling factor is the "why the heck should I bother with the added complexity if I can reach 330M people who speak the same language and use the same currrency and the same address system and the same bank system" thinking.
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A version of the "Why CONUS only?" thread exists on pretty much every watch forum I've ever been a member of.

It seems to be a primarily US thing with the fear of shipping to anywhere outside the US. The idea that someone from the US would have the "handhold" someone in another country as some have said seems odd to me. In most other countries, shipping internationally isn't unusual, so in my experience at least, people know what to expect, so I think this more of a thing from the sender.

Those who talk about the US market's size are right - many watch people in the US have never shipped internationally, and haven't had the need to, so for many it's an unknown they just don't want to deal with. I've had people in the US send me watches to service who had never shipped anything internationally before, and sometimes when they show up at their post office, the people there have no clue how to do it...amazing.

Having shipped internationally for years, there's really nothing that's a big deal about it, or a big risk. This US only exclusion doesn't seem to be common here, but there is a seller I see who puts this in their sales threads pretty often. There was a watch I was interested in, but just like US sellers don't want to be bothered with the "hassle" of international shipping, I don't want to be bothered trying to convince someone to sell to me, so their loss.
 
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I shipped to someone in the Netherlands via UPS a while ago. The postal codes were unusual for us 5-digit zip Americans so it confused the guy at the counter- he couldn’t find “The Neverlands” in his system.
 
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A version of the "Why CONUS only?" thread exists on pretty much every watch forum I've ever been a member of.

It seems to be a primarily US thing with the fear of shipping to anywhere outside the US. The idea that someone from the US would have the "handhold" someone in another country as some have said seems odd to me. In most other countries, shipping internationally isn't unusual, so in my experience at least, people know what to expect, so I think this more of a thing from the sender.

Those who talk about the US market's size are right - many watch people in the US have never shipped internationally, and haven't had the need to, so for many it's an unknown they just don't want to deal with. I've had people in the US send me watches to service who had never shipped anything internationally before, and sometimes when they show up at their post office, the people there have no clue how to do it...amazing.

Having shipped internationally for years, there's really nothing that's a big deal about it, or a big risk. This US only exclusion doesn't seem to be common here, but there is a seller I see who puts this in their sales threads pretty often. There was a watch I was interested in, but just like US sellers don't want to be bothered with the "hassle" of international shipping, I don't want to be bothered trying to convince someone to sell to me, so their loss.
It reminds me of the fact that only 40-50% of Americans have passports.

The thought I guess has always been "Why travel elsewhere when you have everything you need in your own borders".