"US Sales only" - ?

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I'm curious if anything similar is required for watches leaving the US?

No, just a basic customs form with total value.
 
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What is mildly ironic, all these customs duties on imported watches to the US were intended to protect US manufacturers from competition.

Today? What US manufacturers?
 
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Moreover, customs duties for watches make no sense in the context of a collectible. There is no way to take the value of a collectible watch and break it down in a logical way into the value of movement, case, and bracelet. The value of the watch itself far exceeds the components. Filling out the forms for collectible vintage watches is extremely arbitrary IMO.
 
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- HS Tariff No. (never used this)
Every item declared and imported to another country is identified by the HTS code and COO (Country of Origin). Most of us don't use the field, but a customs broker somewhere makes a determination based on the info we provide. It's interesting how different brokers and countries vary in how much attention they do or don't pay to this.
 
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Here is the UPS Customs Brokerage "Watch Sheet" they needed filled out to get the watch "imported" to the US. It is very similar to the FedEx version @Archer was kind enough to email.

I'm curious if anything similar is required for watches leaving the US?


Interesting that there's no field to say if it is a chronograph or not...
 
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This is the form on our national postal service online platform (I chose "USA" for destination):



- Type of export (documents/samples/gift/etc).
- Currency of stated value.

- Amount (for one watch, type "1").
- Net weight.
- Description (max. 30 letters).
- Country of origin.
- HS Tariff No. (never used this).
- Value.

That's it. Probably takes me two minutes to fill out.

I think it's different for postal shipments than for courier shipments, at least when to comes to watches.

When you ship via courier, unless you designate a customs broker, or the recipient does, the courier will act as your customs broker.

To facilitate the fastest delivery possible, couriers want as much information as possible to expedite the clearing of your shipment. They also don't want complaints from someone about the duties being charged, so they have a very high stake in getting this information correct. They then present this to US customs, who clears the shipment quickly so the courier can meet their delivery standards.

I ship FedEx 2-day to the US, and it's rare that the package is not there the day after I send it. It won't leave here until early in the evening, and is often cleared and in my customer's hands before noon the following day. Of course I send it with all the correct information, which includes more than what others have talked about here. Because I'm returning an item from repairs/.service, I have to provide additional paperwork over and above what has been mentioned so far. So on top of commercial invoices and the watch work sheet, I include a copy of my invoice, plus a breakdown of the values of each part of the watch before and after service, and finally a repaired watch declaration form.

In contrast the USPS either doesn't bother with collecting duties, or they are not too bothered with the time it takes to clear customs. There is no customs broker, so if the parcel goes off to US customs and needs to be classified, they will open it to do that, make their determination, and apply duties accordingly. From what I gather from people who get watches in the US through the mail, for the most part it doesn't get any attention at all from US customs.

Cheers, Al
 
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From what I gather from people who get watches in the US through the mail, for the most part it doesn't get any attention at all from US customs.

I think I might have once had a package opened by US Customs. I suspect they X-ray it, and if it looks more or less like the declaration claims it should, they pass it.
 
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Interesting that there's no field to say if it is a chronograph or not...
Digging into the HTS codes today, I found no differentiation in any codes based solely on whether or not it has a stop-watch function. Maybe it was there in the past and was changed...?

For anyone bored and wants to know the Chapter and major heading types, the US version can be found here (excerpts below)
https://hts.usitc.gov/view/Chapter 91?release=2020HTSARev19


Chapter 91 covers "CLOCKS AND WATCHES AND PARTS THEROF"

Heading 9101 covers "Wrist watches, pocket watches and other watches, including stop watches, with case of precious metal or of metal clad with precious metal"

Heading 9102 covers similar, but for "other than those of heading 9101" (so non-precious metal)

Heading 9103 covers "Clocks with watch movements..."

Heading 9104 covers "Instrument panel clocks..."

Heading 9105 covers "Other clocks..." (ie: alarm clocks)

Heading 9106 covers "Time of day recording apparatus..."

Heading 9107 covers "Time switches with clock or watch movement..."

Heading 9108 covers "Watch movements, complete and assembled:" (broken down by winding type, # of jewels, size, value -- never whether with or without stop watch function)

Heading 9109 covers "Clock movements, complete and assembled"

Heading 9110 covers "Complete watch or clock movements, unassembled or partly assembled..."

Heading 9111 covers "Watch cases and parts thereof"

Heading 9112 covers "Clock cases..."

Heading 9113 covers "Watch straps, watch bands and watch bracelets, and parts thereof"

Heading 9114 covers "Other clock or watch parts"
 
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There is absolutely no valid reason for limiting sales within the USA. When we list something it's usually free shipping in the USA but lately USPS shipping worldwide is not much more than $10 to $12 bucks more. Last 3 package deals we posted here went to UK and France without a problem.

HI Janice & Fred

I have to ask ( fyi I have not read the entire thread yet , sorry if you answered this already).
How is shipping worldwide not much more then 10- 12$ more ?

Please explain what USPS services you use when you ship overseas...when i have used USPS it was more then 10-12 ...

thanks
bill
 
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I ship from the East Haven Ct post office 06512 zip code and the last package I sent to the UK cost me $28 and some odd change. Usually when I ship domestically it runs around $10 to $15 bucks. When I ship overseas I pack the watches in my own small box and send them in one of those white shipping envelopes at the post office, not by priority mail like I do domestically.
 
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I ship from the East Haven Ct post office 06512 zip code and the last package I sent to the UK cost me $28 and some odd change. Usually when I ship domestically it runs around $10 to $15 bucks. When I ship overseas I pack the watches in my own small box and send them in one of those white shipping envelopes at the post office, not by priority mail like I do domestically.


Hi

So not priority , registered mail w Ins?
Tracking ?
What services are you using at the usps ?
Thanks
Bill
 
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Hold on Bill let me go out to the car as I have some receipts for past shipments in the glove compartment and I will snap a picture so you might be able to figure out what the type of USPS service it is.
 
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Hi Bill here is a receipt which has 2 shipments I made, one domestic and one to a member here in France. Looks like the USPS service I used was called "First-Class International". Hope this helps? I do recall asking at the post office for the cheapest way for me to ship to Europe. 😁